Taking A Break While Abroad

[matrix8]

So, ...I have decided to take a break from my TRT because I am traveling through south america and my RBC count was at 60% and my liver appears to have a slight issue. I couldn't donate blood due to elevated RBC. I got a phlebotomy so that will help.

The liver issue doesn't appear to be related to TRT .
I feel great actually but don't wanna die while traveling or scuba diving. That would kinda ruin the trip.

I was on 150mg test e every 4 - 5 days for 20 weeks along with HCG(250iu - 500iu 2X/week) from weeks 7 -20 and 1/4 of a letro tab usually twice/week.

I am 40 years old
182 pounds
10 % bodyfat
high cholesterol
High RBC cout

The plan is:

14 days after my last shot of 150mg test I blast HCG at doses 1800iu, 900iu, 450iu, 450iu,450iu, 250iu 250iu EOD. (12 day total)
4 days later begin clomid and Nolvadex : 100/100/50/50/50/25-clomid , and 10/10/10/10/10/10-Nolvadex
2 weeks after PCT get blood work and see where I stand. If my BW looks good and what my itinerary looks like I'll decide based on how I feel whether to jump back on .
I'll be traveling probably till January but that isn't written in stone. I generally work back home for 18 months and then travel for about 10 months.

* There are so many conflicting opinions on the web with tonnes of broscience that is mostly cut n pasted regarding HCG . Most people r just parroting what they read off of various forums...Even among doctors the opinions vary greatly. So I decided to to take a bit of each point of view and instead of blasting HCG for 24days only do 12 days. Instead of doing strictly high doses or strictly low doses I'll do both. Even though I ran HCG from weeks 7-20 I will still do a short blast to be on the safe side.

I don't tolerate Nolvadex very well so will be just adding the half dose for 6 weeks.

I am curious if anybody has any suggestions about the PCT in particular if 6 weeks is too long and if these doses of clomid seem appropriate .

Anyways, this forum has been a nice help for me and will continue to enjoy reading about others' foray into HRT.

 

[Megatron28]

Take NAC for your liver.

 

[matrix8]

Will do. Thanks.

 

[Alpin]

HCG raises HB as well. Personally I did fine with doses of 500-600 I.u. (max)
EOD for first few weeks then E3D.
I find 500 I.u each dose to be the minimum for results.

 

[Jimstigator]

Have you ever taken clomid? If not... you might be in for one hell of an emotional roller-coaster. Not something you want when traveling.

I have never lasted more than 2 weeks on clomid.

-Jim

 

[Alpin]

Have you ever taken clomid? If not... you might be in for one hell of an emotional roller-coaster. Not something you want when traveling.

I have never lasted more than 2 weeks on clomid.

-Jim

Looks like it effects some people negatively with insomnia, anxiety, headaches.

 

[matrix8]

I've never used it. Only Nolvadex. Never heard any bad sides b4. Something else to look forward to I guess. Ill start at 100 divided into morning and night and if it gets to b too much Ill drop to 50. I got lottsa sleeping pills incase it causes insomnia.

 

[Alpin]

I've never used it. Only Nolvadex. Never heard any bad sides b4. Something else to look forward to I guess. Ill start at 100 divided into morning and night and if it gets to b too much Ill drop to 50. I got lottsa sleeping pills incase it causes insomnia.

Start off slow with HCG. Try to run the stuff at sensible dosages that won't descensitize you in the long run.
Try to hit at least 550 ng/dl if u can before starting SERMS.

 

[Alpin]

So, ...I have decided to take a break from my TRT because I am traveling through south america and my RBC count was at 60% and my liver appears to have a slight issue. I couldn't donate blood due to elevated RBC. I got a phlebotomy so that will help.

The liver issue doesn't appear to be related to TRT .
I feel great actually but don't wanna die while traveling or scuba diving. That would kinda ruin the trip.

I was on 150mg test e every 4 - 5 days for 20 weeks along with HCG(250iu - 500iu 2X/week) from weeks 7 -20 and 1/4 of a letro tab usually twice/week.

I am 40 years old
182 pounds
10 % bodyfat
high cholesterol
High RBC cout

The plan is:

14 days after my last shot of 150mg test I blast HCG at doses 1800iu, 900iu, 450iu, 450iu,450iu, 250iu 250iu EOD. (12 day total)
4 days later begin clomid and Nolvadex : 100/100/50/50/50/25-clomid , and 10/10/10/10/10/10-Nolvadex
2 weeks after PCT get blood work and see where I stand. If my BW looks good and what my itinerary looks like I'll decide based on how I feel whether to jump back on .
I'll be traveling probably till January but that isn't written in stone. I generally work back home for 18 months and then travel for about 10 months.

* There are so many conflicting opinions on the web with tonnes of broscience that is mostly cut n pasted regarding HCG . Most people r just parroting what they read off of various forums...Even among doctors the opinions vary greatly. So I decided to to take a bit of each point of view and instead of blasting HCG for 24days only do 12 days. Instead of doing strictly high doses or strictly low doses I'll do both. Even though I ran HCG from weeks 7-20 I will still do a short blast to be on the safe side.

I don't tolerate Nolvadex very well so will be just adding the half dose for 6 weeks.

I am curious if anybody has any suggestions about the PCT in particular if 6 weeks is too long and if these doses of clomid seem appropriate .

Anyways, this forum has been a nice help for me and will continue to enjoy reading about others' foray into HRT.

Your HCT reached 60 % on 150 mg a week of TRT ?
when was your last blood donation?
What level does that 150 mg T have you at?

 

[Alpin]

Way too much clomid too....
If I were you I would do 50 mg 3 times a week or you may take it ED for a month

 

[matrix8]

A major part of why my hct shot to 60% was because I'm traveling between 2 cities in the Andes mountains called Quito and Cuenca which are at an extremely high elevation so that jacks up my RBC count along with the TRT and cuz I was mixing my HCG with vitamin B complex which also elevates RBC count.

I can't be sure but I expect that when I return to the coast, have donated blood a 2nd time 6 weeks from now and the fact Ive dropped the vita B complex that the hct will be lowered.

Then I'll also decide whether to jump back on the TRT again .

 

[Alpin]

A major part of why my hct shot to 60% was because I'm traveling between 2 cities in the Andes mountains called Quito and Cuenca which are at an extremely high elevation so that jacks up my RBC count along with the TRT and cuz I was mixing my HCG with vitamin B complex which also elevates RBC count.

I can't be sure but I expect that when I return to the coast, have donated blood a 2nd time 6 weeks from now and the fact Ive dropped the vita B complex that the hct will be lowered.

Then I'll also decide whether to jump back on the TRT again .

I've heard the b complex raises HB while on TRT as well as zinc.
What I want to know is if coming off TRT does the b complex/zinc supplementation still raise HB to a lesser degree?

 

[wtgrantham]

If you used HCG the whole time on TRT I see no reason to do a blast for PCT. The purpose is to keep your boys plump and functional if you have maintained them no reason to blast them. HCG is an LH mimic, the Clomid will cause you to produce your own high levels of LH.

 

[matrix8]

Well, u were right . I've started noticing the anxiety from the clomid . Gonna try to stick it out but definitely need the sleeping pills.

 

[Therealkozmo]

Clomid sides are nothing. Don't be a wuss