tbol and anavar only cycle

[SlamSpunk]

stats:
weight 165-170
height 5'10
age 21
time in gym 5 years on and off current time 7 months 5 times a week.
bf 13%ish

Okay before I start I know Im 21 and some people might think its abit young and maybe you are right but I know many people alot younger who have run alot stronger.cycles with good results.
I dont want to pin because I suffer with.mpb , I dont want to run the risk of irectile problems post cycle.
I havr put deep thought into pinning I did make a post about a week ago about test e but since.Ive had a.change of heart.

Anyway Ive been reading some thread on var and tbol cycles they seem to be a pretty sexy combo just wondering your views or experiences on these compounds.
ill be running tbol 30mg ed and var 50-75mg ed for 8 weeks. With clomid for pct and liv.52 and purim.
And has anyone use pro chem tbol and was it legit?

I know im not very heavy however Im going away with.my gf in about 10 weeks and I just want to get the most out of that time.
I know most people will say oh what about the sides but I believe run with the.correct protection this cycle will be fine right?

Thanks in advance.

 

[J_Fox23]

We all told you before not to cycle especially oral only and 2 orals at that and I'm not even talking about your age. You say you don't wanna pin because mpb and you don't want any ED problems post cycle well guess what you're more likely to have ED problems on oral only cycles compared to pinning.

 

[SlamSpunk]

I thought ed problems with orals were more during cycle? And I thought test can harm your ed alot more in the long run. This is the only forum where everyone is madly against oral cycles every other forums the members are interested in the results and saying good luck lol. Also they all say with correct pct and liver protection oral cycles are fine. But this forum is Test test est as if all other aas are not to be used even though they are used and proven to work ..

 

[SlamSpunk]

I dont want to be a massive bb I want to just get a better leaner shape so I think test is not the best option for me with my worries on mpb etc.

 

[J_Fox23]

Believe we love other aas but for every cycle you should have a test base. You won't get huge if you don't want to, it's all diet dependent. If you are wanting to get leaner you can take test and up your cardio and chang eyour lifting routine to lighter weights more reps. This way you'll preserve your muscle and not have to worry about your body becoming catabolic.

 

[SlamSpunk]

I guess thats true but mpb is my biggest issue when it comes to aas. And anavar and tbol are safe on the hair. Ive shaved my head before and thats why I never want to again.lmao I cover my hairline well atm as my hair is thick but I dont want to risk it getting worse. Ive run anavar only before and I loved it barely no sides slight decrease in libido at the end of cycle but back to normal after cycle. And every single thread ive read about people who have actually run tgis cycle or var only all say they loved it to. I agree to base test to every cycle if I was older but I dont want to risk ED or any perminant damage that could come with it. My friend owns a clothes shop an he sell viagra and the amount of people that come in buyibg them because they been using test is unreal...

 

[mckic07]

I guess thats true but mpb is my biggest issue when it comes to aas. And anavar and tbol are safe on the hair. Ive shaved my head before and thats why I never want to again.lmao I cover my hairline well atm as my hair is thick but I dont want to risk it getting worse. Ive run anavar only before and I loved it barely no sides slight decrease in libido at the end of cycle but back to normal after cycle. And every single thread ive read about people who have actually run tgis cycle or var only all say they loved it to. I agree to base test to every cycle if I was older but I dont want to risk ED or any perminant damage that could come with it. My friend owns a clothes shop an he sell viagra and the amount of people that come in buyibg them because they been using test is unreal...

man i have never heard such bs in my life... first of all you may have been lucky with ur var only cycle, two of my mates have done 8 wek var only cycles and had the worst case of ED and almost complete loss of libido, the other had much better gains on tbol and hence that's why i tried it, needless to say he also had the same problems as the other two... if you're worried about ur hairline buy some finasteride, testosterone is what gives men a sex drive, therefore having ED on test is complete bs! i'm running test and have the highest sex drive and hardest boners of my life, run test at 100mg per week (only replacing what you would have produced naturally) and then run ur var or tbol... running var and tbol at the same time is just madness, you never run two orals period. sure dianabol is much more hepatoxic than var or tbol, but dont play games with your liver... i'm not trying to flame you man but ur ideas are really messed up, you can gain or cut on straight test, all diet dependant man... at the end of the day it's ur body, but we dont take the time to respond to ur messages for nothing, dont mess urself up by doing an orals only cycle and whatever u do, dont run two at the same time... all the best

 

[Conrad0032]

I've had a few buddies who have run oral-only cycles with good results. They are older at 23-25 but I feel 21 is the age where you can start dipping your toes into AAS. However... I recommend against taking Tbol and anavar regardless of how "none toxic" they are. I know how bad you want to do this but think it over one, twice, and then five more times. If you must run an oral only cycle do it with only ONE oral. You said you want to just get a little bigger and not bodybuild or anything so a tbol only cycle will be plenty. Keep in mind you will lose your gains more so than if you ran it with test e, but it will still be effective for your goals.

It's your body, your life, you only have one and it will be over before you know it. Do what you want to do and what will make you happy.

side note... you should eventually graduate to injectable AAS as too many oral cycles will take a large toll on your body.

 

[frank.tb]

1. Oral only...stupid...lethargic and low/no sex drive...been there done that...
2. You can lose hair on pretty much any steroid...it all depends on genetics.
3. Too fuckin young...again from personal experience
4. Two orals? Do you still want your liver? If.not then run 2 orals.
5. Worried that much about sides? Don't take steroids. They aren't for everyone.

And last but.not least you are.not ready whatsoever to use any steroid...

 

[SlamSpunk]

I've had a few buddies who have run oral-only cycles with good results. They are older at 23-25 but I feel 21 is the age where you can start dipping your toes into AAS. However... I recommend against taking Tbol and ana Anavar (var) regardless of how "none toxic" they are. I know how bad you want to do this but think it over one, twice, and then five more times. If you must run an oral only cycle do it with only ONE oral. You said you want to just get a little bigger and not bodybuild or anything so a tbol only cycle will be plenty. Keep in mind you will lose your gains more so than if you ran it with test e, but it will still be effective for your goals.

It's your body, your life, you only have one and it will be over before you know it. Do what you want to do and what will make you happy.

side note... you should eventually graduate to injectable AAS as too many oral cycles will take a large toll on your body.

man i have never heard such bs in my life... first of all you may have been lucky with ur Anavar (var) only cycle, two of my mates have done 8 wek Anavar (var) only cycles and had the worst case of ED and almost complete loss of libido, the other had much better gains on tbol and hence that's why i tried it, needless to say he also had the same problems as the other two... if you're worried about ur hairline buy some finasteride, testosterone is what gives men a sex drive, therefore having ED on test is complete bs! i'm running test and have the highest sex drive and hardest boners of my life, run test at 100mg per week (only replacing what you would have produced naturally) and then run ur Anavar (var) or tbol... running Anavar (var) and tbol at the same time is just madness, you never run two orals period. sure dianabol is much more hepatoxic than Anavar (var) or tbol, but dont play games with your liver... i'm not trying to flame you man but ur ideas are really messed up, you can gain or cut on straight test, all diet dependant man... at the end of the day it's ur body, but we dont take the time to respond to ur messages for nothing, dont mess urself up by doing an orals only cycle and whatever u do, dont run two at the same time... all the best

I said test can cause ed post cycle aka perminant damage as I know loads of people who suffer with it because of test. I think test is more for the people who are going to 100% be training all their life. Id like to think I will be but Im not 100% sure atm. And you cant say it was luck its like saying your friends had bad luck maybe it just didnt affect me as bad..
Thanks conrad you seem to be here to help not troll at every oral cycle thread. I have read dozens of oral only threads and everyone praises them. I stand by with the right protection orals are are fine. if run at a safe dose, which is what I am trying to find out.