Test/DBol/Winstrol Cycle - Need a little help

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tomek92pl

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Hey!

So I'm starting my 2nd cycle in the end of June, 8 weeks long. Want to do 8 weeks of Test-E (500mg a week), 4 first weeks Dianabol and last 4 weeks Winstrol (pills). The problem is I don't know what dosage of dbol and Winstrol I should take. I'm around 74kg right now, around 10-15% BF. Any advice?
Oh, and would Nolvadex suffice as a PCT? Or should I get Clomid? Because my guy keeps telling me that Nolvadex is same as Clomid and he keeps trying to give me Nolvadex which I already have from my first cycle.

Thanks
 
Why run dbol then winstrol? U should stretch your cycle out to 12 weeks and finish with var. Your stats are pretty vague. 10-15% bf?
 
1-your liver will hate you.
2- nolvadex and clomid are both necessary for recovery.

If ,for a reason, I have to choose between nolvadex and clomid, I ll choose the clomid.
 
tomek92pl said:
So how should I take this clomid?
And what dosage of dbol and winstrol?
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drop the winstrol. it will destroy your joints and if your not stepping on stage it aint worth the risk. run the test 10 weeks minimum(12 is better) and for pct clomid 50mg and nolva 20mg both for 4 weeks
 
Still not getting my point. I am doing a cycle of 8 weeks. Not 10, not 12. Not dropping winstrol, not dropping dianabol. When should I start using clomid & nolva.
 
If you are not doing what you ve been adviced why are u asking for advice.. Kingbf post was on spot.
Try to thank the guy instead of getting aggressive.
Looks like u want to do what u want so Go ahead and do what u want and don't ask for help.


On a side note: your cycle sux
 
Rida5d said:
If you are not doing what you ve been adviced why are u asking for advice.. Kingbf post was on spot.
Try to thank the guy instead of getting aggressive.
Looks like u want to do what u want so Go ahead and do what u want and don't ask for help.
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I'm not getting agressive, just making myself clear, about what kind of advice I'm asking, because I got the answers, but not to my question.

Rida5d said:
On a side note: your cycle sux
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Thank you for sharing your opinion.

KingBF, when should I start with Clomid and Nolva?
Thank you.

PS. I can't make my cycle longer, because of a few things. That's why it's just 8 weeks. Actually I only have 4 weeks time, but I'm not gonna do a 4 week cycle -.- so I stretched it to 8. I just didn't think it's necessary to explain myself why it's just 8 weeks. This is why some people shouldn't make assumptions about others, like "they know bettter, let them do whatever they want", because you never know everything.
 
If you only got 8 weeks, your using the wrong shit. Get test prop and pin it every other day. Otherwise, yea your cycle idea sucks big time...
 
tomek92pl said:
I've seen people with the exact same cycle, getting nice results.
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Exact cycle meaning test e 8 weeks , dbols and wini 8 weeks?
Lmao
So clever , using a long ester for 8 weeks, and harsh Orals for 8 weeks..

Newbies looking at this bullshit : don't u ever take this shitty cycle.
 
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Ok, then what cycle would you suggest me to do? The only avaible stuff I have is 20ml test, dbol, and stromba, nolva, clomid (not yet), and only 8 weeks.
 
I'm not suggesting anything.. I'm just telling you that long esters need to be run more than 8 weeks,
Just when the hormone will start to yield the results u are looking for, u will stop the cycle.
Either get another test e vial, or switch to prop ester as tbone suggested. Prob is a short ester and running it for 8 weeks is applicable .. Unlike ester enan / cyp which needs more time
 
run test prop 8 weeks then.shoot EOD at 100mg-150mg. 5 days after last inject start clomid at 50mg and nolva at 20mg both for 4 weeks. if you really want to run dbol then run it the first 4 weeks at 20-40mg(this is plenty). DO NOT run winstrol unless your competing which is obvious you are not. it is a horrible drug and you'll probably end up being injured. dries your joints out really bad and makes it impossible to workout 100%
 
A friend of mine had a few stromba cycles and he's fine. As I said before, the only thing avaible for me atm is test-e, dbol and stromba. My first cycle was test-e, should be 12 weeks, stoped after 10th. first week 300mg, weeks 2-3 450mg, 4-8 600mg, week 9 450 week 10 300. I've been seeing results within the first 2 weeks (2kg a week). As far as I know 8 weeks is the minumum for Test-E, but sure, I'll extend it to 10 weeks as you guys say. So, weeks 1-10 Test-E 500mg. Now I'm not sure if I should add stromba for the last 6 weeks of the cycle, or dbol (You kinda scared the shit out of my liver, so I'm not using 2 orals at once). Or maybe should I run stromba together with deca to protect my joints?

EDIt

I'm 21, training seriously for about a year, with a few months missing here and there. I was working out before, but not consistently. My goals? Get big and ripped. Yes, ripped it a must in my situation,
 
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tomek92pl said:
A friend of mine had a few stromba cycles and he's fine. As I said before, the only thing avaible for me atm is test-e, dbol and stromba. My first cycle was test-e, should be 12 weeks, stoped after 10th. first week 300mg, weeks 2-3 450mg, 4-8 600mg, week 9 450 week 10 300. I've been seeing results within the first 2 weeks (2kg a week). As far as I know 8 weeks is the minumum for Test-E, but sure, I'll extend it to 10 weeks as you guys say. So, weeks 1-10 Test-E 500mg. Now I'm not sure if I should add stromba for the last 6 weeks of the cycle, or dbol (You kinda scared the shit out of my liver, so I'm not using 2 orals at once). Or maybe should I run stromba together with deca to protect my joints?
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deca has to be run way longer than 8 weeks. I just wouldn't use winny. theres no point cause as soon as you stop taking it that water returns in between your skin and muscle. do what you want but one week on winny and you'll hurt like an old man. its ok to ramp up the test but pointless to go back down. you ramp it up so you don't get stalled so ramping down makes no sence.
 
Hey Tomek, I hope I can try to help you here. First off, these guys are trying to steer you in the right direction and are suggesting the best possible gear for your 8 week cycle. I have a university degree in Business Management and Human Resources and can therefore give you this advice............

Without knowing your financial situation, can you put aside the stuff you have right now for a later date when you can do a 12 week cycle, and get the gear that is suggested to be most beneficial to you for an 8 week cycle.

I have found that the guys on here have a vast amount of experience and knowledge that can be greatly helpful.
 
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