Test/Deca/Dbol...

[ZeusHimself]

Alright so I will be going into my next blast around 200lbs and 8-9% bf.

I am thinking:
Week 1-4 Dbol @50mg
Week 1-18 Test E @750mg/wk
Week 1-18 Deca @600mg/wk

My concern with this is putting in all this hard work to get down to 8% bf then hit this bulker and become a bloated mess. I would like to stay around 10% throughout my bulk if possible. I know that it mostly comes down to diet but is it even possible to stay lean while on test/deca/dbol?

Anyone that has ran this care to share your experience? I have heard it is the ultimate bulker.

 

[ZeusHimself]

Anyone?

 

[bigad84]

Anyone?

Steroids build muscle man, not fat. So, you ask if it is "even possible to stay lean..." of course. You can cut or bulk on virtually any combination of gear all depending on diet. If you were to eat a real clean diet, and throw in some cardio, why do you think you would become a bloated mess? Sure, maybe some water retention, but you can abaolutely stay lean with the right diet. If you became a bloated mess and negated all the hard work you put in earleir, it would not be the result the gear you were on, it would be the diet (or lack of discipline in the diet).

 

[ZeusHimself]

Steroids build muscle man, not fat. So, you ask if it is "even possible to stay lean..." of course. You can cut or bulk on virtually any combination of gear all depending on diet. If you were to eat a real clean diet, and throw in some cardio, why do you think you would become a bloated mess? Sure, maybe some water retention, but you can abaolutely stay lean with the right diet. If you became a bloated mess and negated all the hard work you put in earleir, it would not be the result the gear you were on, it would be the diet (or lack of discipline in the diet).

Thanks man! No problems on my diet. I am extremely strict! Just heard horror stories about people getting bloated on this particular cycle but as you suggest it is most likely due to lack of discipline.

 

[bigad84]

That's all. Plus, if you have problems with water retention, consider an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like letro or Arimidex. Just keep the dose low so as to not totally put your estrogen level in the ground. Some is all right, but too high, and yes you will have the bloated look. Good luck man.

 

[ZeusHimself]

That's all. Plus, if you have problems with water retention, consider an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like letro or Arimidex. Just keep the dose low so as to not totally put your estrogen level in the ground. Some is all right, but too high, and yes you will have the bloated look. Good luck man.

I generally use adex at 0.5mg EOD but may try aromasin @12.5mg's ED while on this bulk.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

control estrogen with Aromatase inhibitor (AI) daily and stay on your diet, you can cut on Deca just as easy as bulk . Dbols might make you a little smooth those first few weeks but your burn it off

 

[SolomonGrundy]

I generally use adex at 0.5mg EOD but may try aromasin @12.5mg's ED while on this bulk.

Aromasin is a better choice, no rebound and its a steroid bases Aromatase inhibitor (AI), so it lowers SHBG that will allow your free test levels to be higher

 

[heavylifting1]

Its never a bad idea to eat as clean as possible and do as much cardio as you can.

 

[stang50]

Don't be scared to gain a little fat, but as long as everthings in check you'll be fine.

 

[Jonnie187]

Beautiful cycle!! I plan on running the same thing. Maybe npp though. As previously stated above you will be fine if you control the estro and manage your diet to the T... Good Luck bro!!!

 

[jagbc]

Running anything for prolactin?

 

[gmann]

I'm currently at week 6 of test/deca, very pleased so far, very little water, diet is clean and I've seen more lean mass gains due to diet and cardio. Have been a beast in the gym, took a good 4 to 5 weeks to kick in, but it's rolling now, and I still have 10 weeks left, I also have Anavar on hand in case I want to throw it in at the end.

 

[ZeusHimself]

Beautiful cycle!! I plan on running the same thing. Maybe npp though. As previously stated above you will be fine if you control the estro and manage your diet to the T... Good Luck bro!!!

Thanks man! Now I am considering a Test/NPP/Dbol cycle instead. Can't decide.

I'm currently at week 6 of test/deca, very pleased so far, very little water, diet is clean and I've seen more lean mass gains due to diet and cardio. Have been a beast in the gym, took a good 4 to 5 weeks to kick in, but it's rolling now, and I still have 10 weeks left, I also have Anavar on hand in case I want to throw it in at the end.

Awesome to hear man! What kind of surplus you eating at?