Test-e 250mg e3.5d Cycle (First Cycle)

[Cmkinusn]

Hi, I'm 23, 161 lbs. And about 10-12% body fat. I have begun my first cycle, which will be test-e 250mg/e3.5d, or 500mg/week. Here is my cycle schedule:

Week 1-16: Test-e 250mg/e3.5d
Week 1-17.5: HCG 250iu/e3.5d
Week 1-16: Aromasin 12.5mg EOD to start
Week 18-22: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

I front loaded the test-e at 500mg for the first shot, and completed my second injection Thursday night. My next injection is Monday early morning. I take HCG the same time period I take the test, I inject it SQ in my abdomen.

Here are my stats that I will track throughout my log:

Measurements (inches):
Chest: 35
Bicep: 12.25
Waist: 30.4
Hips: 37.5
Thigh: 21.5
Calf: 16

Lifts: (format is weight then sets and reps ex. 5/5/8 or 13/11)
Bench: 130 (5/5/5)
OHP: 85 (5/5/6)
Squat: 155 (5/5/6)
Deadlift: 185 (8)
Chins: bodyweight (8/7)
Bicep Curls: 25×2 (15/11)

Day one pic: https://imgur.com/a/O5ulE

 

[Megatron28]

You should not be using steroids in my opinion.

 

[Cmkinusn]

I have chosen a fairly standard test e cycle, most information on steroids recommend after you turn 23 not 25 as this board indicates, and I have researched my cycle and what to expect for a while now. I have my lab results for pre cycle, plan to get another halfway through, at 8 weeks, and will take another post cycle. Is there some other reason that you don't recommend me taking test e?

 

[blakey]

Front loading test e?????? You just need test prop then slowley start adding test e into your cycle you cant front load test e . Sust or test prop is for front loading or orals test e is a long ester steroid

 

[TrenMan1020]

you don't need to front load Test E bud should just take 30-50 mg of dbol a day to kick start to wait for test to kick in long Esther's are great for first time users just have your AI's and your PCT on hand and figured out before hand and your fine

 

[bigben66]

^^^^^ BOTH BAD ADVICE ^^^^^

OP: You are running a 16 week Test cycle.... with no definitive end goal such as a show, a photo shoot or a vacation. So why do you feel the need to frontload anything?

Just keep this 1st cycle as simple as possible, ease into it, learn how to manage estradiol as you go along and keep dosages constant from day 1 until the end of your run.

The fact that you have frontloaded now means that you will have spiked your E2 and now have to try and keep it in range, but also adjust as you lower to your 'cycle dose'.

Blakey: To advocate a guy running his FIRST cycle to take a mixture of different esters is just ridiculous. Yes, it is something that an experienced dude could try with a few cycles under his belt - but NOT something to be considered on a 1st cycle.

TrenMan1020: D'Bol is also shocking advice for a 1st cycle - D'Bol aromatises like crazy and the OP's goal on his 1st cycle should simply be to see how his body deals with exogenous testosterone.

OP: As far as your cycle schedule goes, apart from the addition of Clomid to your PCT and the mistake you made of frontloading - it looks decent and should bring with it good gains.

Good luck
BigBen

 

[Megatron28]

you don't need to front load Test E bud should just take 30-50 mg of dbol a day to kick start to wait for test to kick in long Esther's are great for first time users just have your AI's and your PCT on hand and figured out before hand and your fine

Several reasons:

23 is too young. You shold wait until you are 25. Right now your endocrine system is still developing. Read the FAQs link provided below in my signature for more info on this including medical studies.

You have obviously never spent time training in a gym. You are no where near 9% body fat. And you can only bench 130lbs. Your other lifts are meager as well. You don't need steroids to make gains. You just actually need to start eating a good diet and start going to the gym to lift weights. Play a sport too.

I applaud you for wanting to make positive changes in your life. But do it Natty for two more years. Then come back and we can help you run a good cycle.

 

[Cmkinusn]

^^^^^ BOTH BAD ADVICE ^^^^^

OP: You are running a 16 week Test cycle.... with no definitive end goal such as a show, a photo shoot or a vacation. So why do you feel the need to frontload anything?

Just keep this 1st cycle as simple as possible, ease into it, learn how to manage estradiol as you go along and keep dosages constant from day 1 until the end of your run.

The fact that you have frontloaded now means that you will have spiked your E2 and now have to try and keep it in range, but also adjust as you lower to your 'cycle dose'.

Blakey: To advocate a guy running his FIRST cycle to take a mixture of different esters is just ridiculous. Yes, it is something that an experienced dude could try with a few cycles under his belt - but NOT something to be considered on a 1st cycle.

TrenMan1020: D'Bol is also shocking advice for a 1st cycle - D'Bol aromatises like crazy and the OP's goal on his 1st cycle should simply be to see how his body deals with exogenous testosterone.

OP: As far as your cycle schedule goes, apart from the addition of Clomid to your PCT and the mistake you made of frontloading - it looks decent and should bring with it good gains.

Good luck
BigBen

I have Clomid available, but all of my research says I don't want to deal with the sides it has, that a simple, one compound cycle that includes hcg to keep my testes running won't need Clomid to be included. Disturbed vision is a pretty damn scary side, especially if it becomes permanent.

(Apologies, this log was started at the end of my first week in this cycle, i have already administered two shots, hcg twice, and a few doses of aromasin) I did frontload only a small amount (500mg. vs 250, putting me at 50% higher weekly dose) and I used 25mg of Aromasin that same day as well, followed by my standard EOD doses of aromasin. Front-loading is fairly common advice on other steroid boards, I actually didn't realize it wasn't recommended here.

Calipers read me at 7.2% on a seven site test, several impedance scans show 8.3-8.8% bodyfat, and I rounded up to 9% because I felt that was more realistic.

Also the reason I decided now is the time to start is that in 6 or 7 months I will be starting a program inside of my job that will place me in areas that require quite a bit of strength all day long (mechanical work), and I felt that if I were to start this cycle, it should be with several months at the end to recover and hold my gains before the program starts. I definitely wouldn't want to try that program in the middle of my cycle or worse right afterwards, so I thought this timing would be best.

This will likely be my only cycle for a long time, I imagine I will be satisfied to grow myself naturally after this for at least a few years.

 

[Megatron28]

Look at your picture. No way you are 9%. Probably closer to 20+%.

Calipers and electrical impedence readings are notoriously inaccurate. Get a Body Pod Scan.

 

[bigben66]

Oh shit, I just looked at your picture.... what the FUCK are you doing cycling!?

Take back everything I have previously said, and use the money you were planning on spending on AAS - and go hire a PT and a dietician.

You should not be cycling without a solid foundation in weight training and a decent grip on nutrition.

Apologies Mega.

 

[Cmkinusn]

Look at your picture. No way you are 9%. Probably closer to 20+%.

Calipers and electrical impedence readings are notoriously inaccurate. Get a Body Pod Scan.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15162135

The caliper test was performed using this Skin Fold equation, which provided a mean 2.2% underestimation vs DXA. Hence my approx. 9% body fat number. I could update that to 9-10% to be more accurate though.

 

[Megatron28]

Here are the pics he posted.

 

[Megatron28]

 

[bigben66]

Bodyfat percentage isn't the issue Mega.... the guy clearly looks like he's never done so much as a press-up in his life, never mind lift weights!

 

[Megatron28]

Bodyfat percentage isn't the issue Mega.... the guy clearly looks like he's never done so much as a press-up in his life, never mind lift weights!

I agree. My 115 pound wife lifts more than him. Has a bigger chest too!

 

[Cmkinusn]

Well, regardless I plan to keep this thread to have a detailed log of my cycle, any problems that occur, my progress, and the post - cycle result. I will update this thread periodically with lift increases, progress pictures, as well as anecdotes or questions.

Edit: changed bodyfat to 10-12% on main post, will likely get a DXA scan in the next month or two and put up that result.

Also, changed hcg schedule to run until 3 days before PCT. Seeing that advice put out a lot here, and it seems like better advice than a week before.

 

[blakey]

Fair call about the esters on first cycle and i also didnt see the pic either my bad the last thing this guy needs is aas my apologies