Test-e and D-Bol first cycle!

[Big-luke1]

I am going to run my first cycle in about 2 weeks
Here are the plans!

Dbol 50mg week 1-4
Test e 600mg week 1-10
Aromasin 25mg EOD

Also I have enough test e to do 500mg for 12 week or 600mg for 10 weeks?
I'm planning on 600 10weeks. Suggestions appreciated.

The post cycle therapy (pct) will be

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 50/25/25/25

post cycle therapy (pct) will begin 2 weeks after last pin

Also I know a guy who had a stroke at 23 who used steroids. (obviously anyone who has a stroke that used steroids the Blame will be on the steroids even though it could happend to anyone) he had a clot in his head.
He told me he would take baby aspirin each day. Would u recomend me taking baby aspirin each day to keep the blood thin???

Also I have a blood pressure monitor and a scale that measures weight/waterweight/bone/muscle. I know they arnt 100% accurate but it will do.

Here are the stats.

4 years of serious training
6'1
215lbs
12%

I will consume 5,000 calories a day.

What gains should I expect?

Also please don't recommend test only for first cycle. I will know if there is any problems because the dbol will hit in a few days and test takes around 4 weeks.

Any advice is welcomed. Thanks.

 

[Rumpy]

How old are you?

 

[frank.tb]

Well I hope you mean .25 adex not 25...
And your post cycle therapy (pct) could use some change...
I wld say on the Nolva go 40/40/20/20
Clomid not too sure what dosage would be "best"
And 12 weeks bro...don't do 10

 

[frank.tb]

Shit sorry Rumpy...you must.have posted as I was typing or I wldnt have said anything...
Answer Rumpy bro and he wld be able to give better advice than me

 

[Big-luke1]

Sorry I'm 26 forgot to add

 

[Big-luke1]

26

 

[Big-luke1]

Aromasin not adex

 

[Big-luke1]

Also I was wondering if Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is necessary as I do not have a source for that. If it really important I will get.

 

[Metalhead]

25mg aro is too much. Start off with 12.5mg eod. Go to 12.5mg ed if you experience any sides like bloating, sensitive nips, stuff like that. I would do 12 weeks. 500mg with dbol should be plenty for your first.

 

[Big-luke1]

The problem is the capsules I'm getting arnt solid they are powder in it. Ordering from a legit source with alot of real positive reviews

 

[enzo321]

You guys sure do like to "overdose" with your cycles.

Dorian Yates claims to have only done(at the top of his career) 1G a week w/50mg of Dianabol(all pharm grade). I doubt you'll need all that given you're a casual user.

Also you can get all those goodies, but no HCG? WTF.

 

[frank.tb]

Aromasin not adex

Oh my bad bro!
But yea 12 weeks...not 10

 

[Big-luke1]

The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is out of stock for awhile.

 

[enzo321]

I wouldn't do shit until I have everything in front of me, but that's just me.

 

[Big-luke1]

I'll do Clomid 100/100/50/50

 

[Big-luke1]

I am not going to start until I have everything aswell

 

[Rumpy]

Shit sorry Rumpy...you must.have posted as I was typing or I wldnt have said anything...
Answer Rumpy bro and he wld be able to give better advice than me

Not sure about that Frank, but I'll take it, thanks.

Like Frank said, you'll get more out of 12 weeks than 10. You could always buy more test and do 600 for 12-14, but it's your first, so 500 for 12 should be a good start. It takes so long to build up in your system that 10 weeks will not give you enough time at peak level, so 12 should be the min.

If you've never used dbol, 50 might be a bit much. At the very least, start will a smaller dose and work your way up. 30-40 feels good to me. Also, add NAC, ALA and Liv52 for liver protection. Austinite has a great post up on these and their usage on cycle.

I would take the clomid to 50mg/day for all 4 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct). Normally I would say 20mg of nolva, but I'm guessing you have 25mg tablets, so 25 is good. I would start at 25mg/day for all 4 weeks, but if you feel estro sides in the first week, bump it up, but I doubt you'll need to. Also, 2 weeks is a minimum for post cycle therapy (pct) with Test E, 15-18 days is a little safer.

 

[Big-luke1]

Alright thanks that's some great advice. also the only reason I considered 600mg per week is because my test is 300mg/ml. Also do u think I should try to get some HCG? And would u recommend anything for htpa?

 

[Rumpy]

Alright thanks that's some great advice. also the only reason I considered 600mg per week is because my test is 300mg/ml. Also do u think I should try to get some HCG? And would u recommend anything for htpa?

Yes, I would recommend HCG. It's not absolutely necessary, but it will help you recover faster once post cycle therapy (pct) is started. I use it on cycle, but some prefer a blast before post cycle therapy (pct). Both are covered in a few stickys here. I always say NEVER start a cycle until you have absolutely everything in hand, but if it's back ordered and you know you will get it in a month, you could always just plan to blast at the end and start your cycle (don't tell anyone I said that).

 

[Big-luke1]

Alright great. I will try to get some HCG. Do u recomend anything to keep htpa from shutting down? And will Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) keep me more protected from complete test shutdown.