Test only for cutting .
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Nicky_eye_lids
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test can help but it all depends on how well you recover afterwards, whats your bf%? pct plan?
oldmusclemike
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Don't understand your Q's. You need to understand what anabolic steroids do to understand what you want to know.
SO listen let me say ...IN SIMPLE terms. WE take steroids to Testosterone ( generally speaking) to help metabolize protein into muscle, ... more efficiently and at a faster rate then what our genetics alone allow. Given this there is NO reason why just test will not be of great aid while cutting or bulking. You should be considering a basic dose of 500mg wk. to up your Test level adequately.
Whether bulking or cutting the rest is up to diet AND.... AND the way you train, whether for bulk ( being pure MASS Building) or mass holding and cutting.
Why can't people understand that given hard training after cycle with proper food you WILL NOT LOSE what LMM you have built. Just because you are cutting or leaning out does NOT mean the loss of MM.
MM is here to stay GIVEN HARD WORKOUTS and food.
Cutting is not loosing Muscle ( if done right) it is the shedding of water and the BURNING OFF of Body Fat. Drop the food intake appropriately , maintain hard workouts will not depleted muscle mass. IF you are feeding and training why would you loose muscle mass
Using an AI appropriately to control aromatization IE your Estrogen levels will allow you to shed unwanted water retention / weight.
But OP I would like to ask you to give us more complete stats if you say you are already at 8% BF. BECAUSE at 8% what BF are you looking to cut down on...is this for a specific show.
Care to show any pics with those stats
PS: I looked at some of you other posts and it seems you never give your complete stats. :
Age
Ht
Wt
BF%
History and goals
Please remember that we ? me deal with many people on her... so it is difficult to memorize members stats completely.
SO I suggest , as I do, when planning a cycle and laying it out for others to critique I begin with laying out my stats COMPLETE so anyone jumping in can see what's up with me , my plan and on and on ...Etc...
SO listen let me say ...IN SIMPLE terms. WE take steroids to Testosterone ( generally speaking) to help metabolize protein into muscle, ... more efficiently and at a faster rate then what our genetics alone allow. Given this there is NO reason why just test will not be of great aid while cutting or bulking. You should be considering a basic dose of 500mg wk. to up your Test level adequately.
Whether bulking or cutting the rest is up to diet AND.... AND the way you train, whether for bulk ( being pure MASS Building) or mass holding and cutting.
Why can't people understand that given hard training after cycle with proper food you WILL NOT LOSE what LMM you have built. Just because you are cutting or leaning out does NOT mean the loss of MM.
MM is here to stay GIVEN HARD WORKOUTS and food.Cutting is not loosing Muscle ( if done right) it is the shedding of water and the BURNING OFF of Body Fat. Drop the food intake appropriately , maintain hard workouts will not depleted muscle mass. IF you are feeding and training why would you loose muscle mass
Using an AI appropriately to control aromatization IE your Estrogen levels will allow you to shed unwanted water retention / weight.
But OP I would like to ask you to give us more complete stats if you say you are already at 8% BF. BECAUSE at 8% what BF are you looking to cut down on...is this for a specific show.
Care to show any pics with those stats
PS: I looked at some of you other posts and it seems you never give your complete stats. :
Age
Ht
Wt
BF%
History and goals
Please remember that we ? me deal with many people on her... so it is difficult to memorize members stats completely.
SO I suggest , as I do, when planning a cycle and laying it out for others to critique I begin with laying out my stats COMPLETE so anyone jumping in can see what's up with me , my plan and on and on ...Etc...
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oldmusclemike
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Sorry I know I am a jerk sometimes...
even though it doesn't matter, but early thirties... ah..30,31,32,33, hmm 34 is mid I guess. Ah ha ha haa lol I don't get it , just for silly conversation...the most difficult question I find after all my years is for people to state their age. someone asks me my age I say 66. Cause I am 66 years old. No big deal , really I know, but I find it interesting when young men on here will tell you the most private info about themselves and family, sex with the wife or GF, masturbation whatever but sometime it will take 3 or 4 times the Q's as to stats, stats, stats and then , well HOW OLD ARE YOU...dammit .. hello ? AGAIN JUST FOR CONVERSATION ^^^^^^
We , I really don't need to know exactly OP if you are already at 8 % all you have to do is watch your water. So if everything is on point and you gain ten pounds or more you know it is water and can be shed quite easily. At your age you most probably can put on 3- to maybe 5 lbs of LMM on a 12- 16 week cycle. Then at the end anything above would be water. If your diet is right and you train hard there is no reason to put on FAT tissue. The added water weight and the Test will allow you to lift more as you should know already.
Keep us posted as to how it's going and let us see your cutting plans.
Good Luck
oldmusclemike
Well-known member
Happy Birthday kiddo , ... Ha you are 1/2 my age. Turned 66 back on the 18th of July.
"A lot of factors play into the role with keeping those gains
Genetics
Your diet
How hard you continue to work out
Your PCT Program
You will never keep your full gains once you are done with your cycle, so that is why all the factors listed above are essential with helping you maintain these gains.
Start with your PCT cycle.. Clomid, Arimidex and Tamoxifin are essential with helping your body adjust once you are off and keep you from losing most of your muscle gains.
You need to continue to work out hard and make sure you don't start eating garbage.
The hardest thing I want to jump off is the mental aspect of knowing your clothes will fit a little loser and you definitely will not look the same as you did a month ago.
Try a good PCT and keep working out just as hard as you were.
You will probably lose 60% of your gains to let your body rest and get ready for the next cycle"
Genetics
Your diet
How hard you continue to work out
Your PCT Program
You will never keep your full gains once you are done with your cycle, so that is why all the factors listed above are essential with helping you maintain these gains.
Start with your PCT cycle.. Clomid, Arimidex and Tamoxifin are essential with helping your body adjust once you are off and keep you from losing most of your muscle gains.
You need to continue to work out hard and make sure you don't start eating garbage.
The hardest thing I want to jump off is the mental aspect of knowing your clothes will fit a little loser and you definitely will not look the same as you did a month ago.
Try a good PCT and keep working out just as hard as you were.
You will probably lose 60% of your gains to let your body rest and get ready for the next cycle"
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