Test/Tren/Mast cutting cycle

[McDaddySanchez]

This will be my fourth cycle..

1-12- Test E 500mg
2-10- Tren E 200mg
1-12 Mast E 600 mg
3-14- HCG 500iu
16-20- Nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100100/50/50

Has anyone had experience with Torem? Was looking to add that possbily in pct?

I am debationg on runnaing Anadrol weeks 1-4 for a good kick start?

I have adex and aromasin on hand, will use the aromasin over the adex. They both are left overs from cycles in the past. Also have prami

I am looking to cut up and added a good amount of strength

Stats
Age:28
Weight:240
Height 6' 2"

Diet will be around 3000

Meats: Pultry, fish, lean steak, lean beef
Carbs- Beans, brown rice, wheat pasta, wheat breads
Fats- ALmonds, olive oil, some PB, pistachios

Previous cycles-
1-10 Test E 500 mg
2-12 Adex .5 eod
13-17 Nolva 40/40/20/20


1-10 Test E 500 mg
1-10- Mast E 400 mg
3-12 HCG 500 ius
15-18- Nolca 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/100/50/50


1-10 Test E 500 mg
1-10- Mast E 400 mg
3-10 Npp 100mg eod
3-12 HCG 500 ius
15-18- Nolca 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/100/50/50

 

[sLd]

It does look good. Iam about to start test/tren today. And only thing I d like you to know that supposedly if you run tren at the same dosage maybe even higher than test [examp. test 300 mg tren 350 a week] , there should be dramatic reduction of side effect from tren as they suppose to fight for the same receptors.


Just my 2 cents bro

enjoy that cycle.

 

[McDaddySanchez]

But wont tren affect libido or is thatthe effect of increase prolactin? I was thinking of runn 750 test and 400 tren also

 

[smittiot]

That would be prolactin sides or elevated e2.
Reading of good (less bloat) runs using 250 test and 350 tren per week.

 

[DobieQueen]

But wont tren affect libido or is thatthe effect of increase prolactin? I was thinking of runn 750 test and 400 tren also

tren can take you either way, depends on the person... it can make you wanna hump everything 24/7 or not touch it with a stick... lol

 

[sLd]

But wont tren affect libido or is thatthe effect of increase prolactin? I was thinking of runn 750 test and 400 tren also

19-nor [deca,tren] are progestins= High levels of progesterone INHIBIT prolactin. Progesterone takes place only if your oestrogen is high [you countrol this by any AI].

I just dont get where people get to saying take caber to supress prolactin with 19nor steroids. 19nor steroid automatically inhibits prolactin. If you control your estrogen ull be fine !!

And about tren dick

"Deca dick is not caused by high prolactin:

Sexual dysfunction in men treated with depot anti... [Sex Health. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI

see its not prolactin rise that causes ED. it may play a part, but its not a direct cause. Further, when it comes to deca dick, its due to DHN:

"...Erectile dysfunction is attributed to the weaker action of dihydronandrolone in the penis since dihydrotestosterone is a known sexual modulator."

Iam now on test/tren got caber on hand just to feel save, but as I said controlling estrogen is the key.

 

[McDaddySanchez]

ok so how would i prevent the decreased libido if e2 is in check if it were to present?

 

[McDaddySanchez]

So I can run lower doses of test higher of tren? What is the difference in the results? I know its hard to say but just trying to wrap my head around it. Most everyone that I know say you should double the test dose of deca/tren due to it being a 19-nor. Is torem worth having in PCT? I was thinking of making this a 16-18 week cycle also..any thoughts?

 

[sLd]

So I can run lower doses of test higher of tren? What is the difference in the results? I know its hard to say but just trying to wrap my head around it. Most everyone that I know say you should double the test dose of deca/tren due to it being a 19-nor. Is torem worth having in PCT? I was thinking of making this a 16-18 week cycle also..any thoughts?

yes the benefit of lower test than tren is less sides. you want the tren to make the results not the test.
if you experience tren dick just use some caber. for some reason it seems to help.


yes its worth it! torem is good if you combinate it with either nolva or clomid it will be even better.

how about hcg? with tren you should use it. it does really help with getting nuts and natural test back to where it was before cycle.

16-18 weeks seems too long to me. if you have short easters id aim to like 7-8 weeks. if you have longer esters id go with 10-12.

 

[Rastas]

Tren made me a porn star.

 

[riprockwell]

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but why in the world are you running long ester tren for just 8 weeks?? Run it for 12 weeks brother as it takes a while to kick it. Tren Ace for 8 weeks would be fine but Tren E needs 12 weeks IMO.

 

[McDaddySanchez]

Ok so how's this..
1-14 test 250 mg a week
1-14 mast 600mg or maybe 400?
1-12 tren 350mg a week
Hcg 2-15 500ius

Clomid nolva torem pct standard doses

I have adex aromasin was gunna buy more prami but would like use caber since prami messes with me but don't have a supplier

 

[McDaddySanchez]

Also want to do weel 1-4 anadrol 50 mg, possibly thinking just 25 to there is less bloat. Would mast prop help with bloat from drol?

 

[sLd]

you got more stuff than my supplier has haha ! it looks great men . if your diet is in check you ll be extremly happy about your results !!

I cant comment on the mast cuz I have never tried it tho.

 

[McDaddySanchez]

I feel like I am learning all over again lo...thank you for the help very much appreciated..same day of diet is like this..

Breakfast
-1/2 cup oatmeal
8 egg whites
1 turkey sausage

Snack
1 scoop protein
1 cup greek yogurt
1/2 banana
1/2 tbs pb
1 cup skim milk
6-9 ice cubes


Lunch
8oz lean steak
2 cups lettuce
2 tbs ceasar dressaing
1/4 cup fat free shredded cheese

Snack
Post workout shake 60g protein, 100g carbs (dextrose)

Dinner
8oz chicken
1/2c cooked rice
1/2cup peppers
1/2 cup onions
1/2 cup broccoli florets
1 tbs garlic oil (its olive oil but when i buy it in cut up the garlic into slices and put it in..tastes great)

Snack
8oz curry chicken with almonds
steamed broccoli

Bed
1 scoop casein protein

Ill adjust serving size to meet protein/carb/calorie requirements but you get the jist

 

[snowpatrol123]

Skip the 100g dextrose carbs post workout if you're cutting; you don't need that shit on AAS. And that does look like a cutting diet...but for my girlfriend maybe. 6-9 ice cubes should be ok just don't go over 12.

 

[McDaddySanchez]

I have so far injected 250mg of test and 600 my of mast and also day 3 of adrol. Have erection issues big time, but adrol doesn't aromatize? Just took .5 mg of adex unsure if it will help. Any suggestions...girlfriend wasn't very happy lol

 

[McDaddySanchez]

Anybody?

 

[McDaddySanchez]

Anyone used ovidac hcg? I ordered 2 vials freeze dried 5000ius..make a mix used a prego test came up negative tried another test came up negative...make another vial used another test came up negative..made the 3rd with the amp it came with used a test and it came up negative...not sure if i just got a bad batch or other people have had similiar experiences? ALso exp date is Dec 2014

 

[lachrymist]

up the test lower mast.... should keep your dick up at least