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juced_porkchop
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even a multi vitamin is not "FDA approved" .... for the most part in my op FDA is simply regulators of big pharma and THEIR interests and $.... not yours..
but I would rec white kidney bean extract or green tea and/or EGCG extract, or thyroid boosting multi-vitamin, dhea supp, highprotein diet with good carbs and fats.. things i woul rec
juced_porkchop
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I wouldent say it "sucks" but i would say its still a stim and not all that far off from meth, something to not abuse for sure.
EasternLegend
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anyone ever done a 6 or 8 week clen cycle with keto and if so what was the dosage.
i don't if this is the right place to post but i could use some help. i just bought some clen from medistar it says its 200mcg/ml and i took 120mcg this morning and im not feeling anything. it tastes like vodka. i was doing two days on and two off and doing ECA on my off days and started last monday, could my receptors be saturated already? or is it just bunk.
Megatron28
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Don't mix ECA and Clen. Not a good idea.
And why 2 days on, 2 days off?
Why such a high dose of Clen?
I don't do ECA and clen at the same time just off days. I've done lots of stuns back ei. Coke, speed. And my ticker is fine.
I like 2on 2off because I don't like the idea of running something like clen for that long. I've done some clen from two places sal and mediastar. The sal stuff I felt it at 40mcg. But this medistar stuff I wasn't feeling shit at divi would just take more. Started at 60 then went to 80 now I've done 120 two day in a row yesterday I got a headache but today nothing. Shouldn't I be ampe at 120mcg two day in a row
I like 2on 2off because I don't like the idea of running something like clen for that long. I've done some clen from two places sal and mediastar. The sal stuff I felt it at 40mcg. But this medistar stuff I wasn't feeling shit at divi would just take more. Started at 60 then went to 80 now I've done 120 two day in a row yesterday I got a headache but today nothing. Shouldn't I be ampe at 120mcg two day in a row
juced_porkchop
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i would rec maybe 100mcg then? careful with clen. just because you havent had issue yet sdoesnt mean dont play it safe.
i would just do clen for 4 weeks with keto than alternating ECA and clen but thats just me : )
TheNewNewGuy
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Great post. Very detailed
JimiThing
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If you wish to do something like that you should incorporate keto tien into your clen run. Dose it at 1mg/day, taken at night before bed. This prevents receptor down-regulation and allows you to run clen longet at more reasonable and responsible doses. That brings me to the dosing portion of your question. No one can tell u a set dose or lay out a pre arranged clen dosing schedule. You have to find what works for you and keep it at the lowest effective dose. With keto tien this could be as low as 20-40mg/day believe it or not, who knows!
anzel
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T3 ain't no joke when it comes to Muscle loss. My friend was using t3 and clen on cycle and had a medical emergency. In the hospital they ran labs and saw he was breaking down large amounts of muscle and excreted it.
He was on 50mcg/day! And 800 mg of test and 500 deca.
So it is possible that even AAS won't stop the catabolic breakdown of muscle.
He was on 50mcg/day! And 800 mg of test and 500 deca.
So it is possible that even AAS won't stop the catabolic breakdown of muscle.
juced_porkchop
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agreed^
take is slow and start low and see how you react. and personally i would avoid it when off aas, unless you need it medically..
take is slow and start low and see how you react. and personally i would avoid it when off aas, unless you need it medically..
omgmike1
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Your talking mainly from the t3 right? I thought Juiced said above clen is anti catabolic and actually conserves muscle loss....?
An example of a possible cycle for fat loss would be as follows:
wk1-6 T3 (wk1-2 25mcg ed/wk3-6 50mcg ed)
wk1-6 Albuterol 7-10mg 2X a day (or 20mg 1X a day but 2X seems best)
wk2-6 Keto 1mg ed (I recommend just before bed time, as it may make you sleepy
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hi sorry for the question but for example T3 can be any under this category like cytomel, Liothyronine (T3) 200mcg x 30ml or should be the name in here. the same for the keto. there are lot of different names. please advise if it can be any. thank
wk1-6 T3 (wk1-2 25mcg ed/wk3-6 50mcg ed)
wk1-6 Albuterol 7-10mg 2X a day (or 20mg 1X a day but 2X seems best)
wk2-6 Keto 1mg ed (I recommend just before bed time, as it may make you sleepy
..
hi sorry for the question but for example T3 can be any under this category like cytomel, Liothyronine (T3) 200mcg x 30ml or should be the name in here. the same for the keto. there are lot of different names. please advise if it can be any. thank
juced_porkchop
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they are just generic, brand or slang names, aslong as the actual compound is the same (actual medical name for it) is the same then you are fine. like keto is short for ketotifen or nolvadex is just a brand name for the compound Tamoxifen. if you are unsure just google the name and look a it closer.
but yes it can be any.
I know it can be confusing at first. iv had person argue with me he was told to take nolva not tamox for pct, and im going nuts trying to explain they ARE THE SAME THING! lol
juced_porkchop
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clen could potentially be, but I would not bet my muscle on it at all. mild.. I would run a basic test cycle with an AI and cut with a good diet and some basic supps IMO
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