This is for Monday's first cycle...thoughts? and fuc# yeah..

[justin h]

(I've said this before)...My background info: I just took this picture (avatar) a couple weeks ago. I'm 30, I've been bodybuilding for 15 yrs and compete regulary in michigan Natural bodybuilding competitions in which I've placed first in my last 4 comps in 3 yrs. I'm 218-225 offseason(right now) and 185-180 competition day. So you could say on C. day...I'm dialed in to damm near perfection..Feel like shit, but I look my best. I'm familiar with cyclying my routines, carbs, supplements, and the hardest=diet.. Over the last 3 yrs I can see I'm hitting my plateau, and for this reason I'd like to learn how to cycle gear. I personally think I'd have really good results with this, I'm mentally prepared and dead set serious, and starting Monday.

With that said I think the "sticky" begginer cycle would be fine...I'm in no rush to get too big too fast.
#1:
Wk 1-12 test enanthate 500mg each week
Wk ?-15 AI=Aromasin 12.5
Wk 12-15,16,17 clomid/nolva..........

Question: Really WHEN and HOW MUCH should I use my AI? I know the dosage can vary depending on when you start. Should I start monday as a safty precaution, or wait until any side effects and then start?

And fuck yeah for those who guided me in the right direction to have this beautiful package delivered to my door today... Joined just 3 weeks ago.. I have the stickys and other resources stuck in my head to help me through this cycle so hopefully it turns out good with kick ass results.. You'll see my before/afters for sure.

 

[janmar]

Good luck bud I'll be watching

 

[0tj0]

I would wait. You could actually hurt your gains or even estro crash should you be the kind of person that requires no Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Even if you do need it, with a long ester I doubt you would ever need one before week 4. Even then depending on what sides you see will determine how much to run.

If you only start seeing excess water weight then most likely .25 mg EOD will be enough to combat that. Now if you start to gyno AND get water weight you may bump that to .5 or even .75 EOD. Max out at 1mg eod if need be, from there if you still get it you should switch to Aromasin or letro.

 

[justin h]

I'm sorry.....It is Aromasin 12.5..

 

[0tj0]

Thats fine. Mostly the same idea but aromasin has to be taken daily and dosed different.

If you only start seeing excess water weight then most likely 12.5 mg ED will be enough to combat that. Now if you start to gyno AND get water weight you may bump that to 25 or even 37.5 ED. Max out at 50mg ed if need be, from there if you still get it you should switch to Adex or letro.

 

[travelling lifter]

I personally have never used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), maybe in the future if I decide to use some more aggressive products sure, but on a test only cycle, you may not need them, especially on a 12 week cycle, then again, I suppose it all depends on how your body reacts

 

[justin h]

^^Thanks that helps tons, thanks....I might not use it, but it's on hand if I do^

 

[teamcasino]

I started asin @12.5 eod, because I am Gyno prone. I bumped to ed because my nip were still sore. As others will say, you may not need to immediately start it unless u are seeing sides (puffy sore nips or bloat.

 

[teamcasino]

I would also look into HCG. This is the first cycle I used it but like it a lot. After my last cycle, my balls shrunk a lot, but the HCG seems to have brought them back to life!

 

[VictorZ06]

I use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) starting day one until PCT is complete...I never get any bloat and my bf% is always in the single digits. I might get a little puffy for a few days if I overdo it with drol, but that's the only time I get bloat. I do fine with adex, but if I'm running a HEAVY cycle, I'll use a suicide Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like aromasin. IMHO, you should include an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in every cycle....but I'm sure others will disagree with me. And yes, get some HCG and use it DURING your cycle. Good luck.




/V

 

[justin h]

I oringinally had ordered hcg... but they were out. I'll make sure to get it. Thanks

 

[cokezero]

I was only running my aromisan at 12.5mgs e3d and i did blood work yesterday and my E2 levels were way high. I am now taking it ed.
Justin- I agree with Victor about running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during every cycle. I think better safe than sorry. take 12.5 mgs ed then at week 4 go get blood work done and you will know then if your dosed right or not. good luck bro.

 

[mrbiggie]

I personally have never used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), maybe in the future if I decide to use some more aggressive products sure, but on a test only cycle, you may not need them, especially on a 12 week cycle, then again, I suppose it all depends on how your body reacts

I agree. My first cycle was a 10 week 500mg/week test-c cycle and I had no sides except for acne. All depends on the body. In my opinion if your running a more aggressive cycle I would use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). But always have one on hand in case of tough times.

 

[swordted]

All of my cycles I've used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout, but for 500mg/test per week just having it on hand is fine.