toremifene for pct?

[freakyfoot]

longtime lurker here, over the past 6months or so i have gained an incredible amount of knowledge here at ology! i am just starting to put together my list of goodies for my first cycle i am hoping to shed some light on the nolva/clomid post cycle therapy (pct) vs torem.what makes one protocol better than the other if at all? I'm planning to run 500mg per week test E along with aromasin for Aromatase inhibitor (AI), still undecided on hcg(whether to run throughout or just blast at the end.....or at all as some say its not needed on test only cycles) but like the idea of one serm over two. any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[Apollo88]

My post cycle therapy (pct) always consists of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and toremefine. Toremefine is by far the best thing for post cycle therapy (pct) through my experience. Clomid and nolva dont even come close in recovery, for me anyway. Its what I always recommend to people

 

[freakyfoot]

anyone care to shed some light on as to why oneprotocol would be better than theother?

 

[HazyKronic]

bump. whats up on th tore?

 

[JimiThing]

I think toremifene is a good post cycle therapy (pct) option. All serms except raloxifene are in my opinion (ralox is king for gyno treatment or prevention however) . i think it just comes down to the extensive data avail on clomd and nolva leaving no doubt where as the data isnt nearly as extensive when it comes to using torem for this specific purpose.

 

[KraviMan]

Toremifine is very similar to Tamoxifene. In fact, they are about 98% similar in efficacy and risk of side effects, with Torem being slightly safer in terms of side effects. There was an article about this comparison done in a Phase III trial (wish I had it now). If you're simply going by mg to mg basis, then Tamox trumps Torem.

In the real world, they are similar with Torem being less prone to give users side effects so the choice is yours.

 

[HazyKronic]

So taking Clomid nolva and toremefine for pct couldnt hurt, eh?

 

[jSalud]

So taking Clomid nolva and toremefine for pct couldnt hurt, eh?

That will almost def lead to sides. Chose either clomid OR Torem to take WITH Nolva.

 

[Hull Tech]

I use the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Torem PCT as well.

RUI used to have some descriptions up of it's products but they taken them down.. lame. Simple answer; not only is Torem a SERM but it also fools the body into producing more natrual test. I've come off of a 8 month deca/test run , (long frikin time ). did my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) lead up and started Torem on day 18 after final shot.. I never missed a beat in the sack, no muscle or strength loss so far, ( at least not that can be measured with a seamstress tape).