training while on cycle

[ran_azrad]

hey,
do i need to change my workout while i'm on cycle?
i work on every mucsle once a week.
please tell me if i need to work more than once a week...

 

[TheMilkMan]

I go 2 on 1 off, all year round... whatever works for you

 

[superstarmike]

nows the time you can go hard heavy and long, just make sure your getting calories

 

[Drako]

You've done 2 cycles in the past and you still havent figured out what works for your body and how it responds yet??

How many years lifting have you got under your belt?

 

[pineapple]

hey,
do i need to change my workout while i'm on cycle?
i work on every mucsle once a week.
please tell me if i need to work more than once a week...

You do not need to change your workouts. You do not need to workout more often or longer. Keep your workouts to one bodypart per week and no more than 1 hr per day, 1hr meaning you're working out and not just talking to other people.

You can overtrain just as easy on steroids as you can without them. I've had plenty of experience with this so I know more so than others do.

I've over trained my rear delts, abs, front delts, biceps. All while on cycle and eating plenty of calories.

Keep in mind, this is based on a muscle per week at 15-25sets per workout.

 

[ran_azrad]

You've done 2 cycles in the past and you still havent figured out what works for your body and how it responds yet??

How many years lifting have you got under your belt?

i just wanna consult and hear some opinions.
i work on every muscle once a week and just wanna know if i need to improve my training.
im working out for 3 years,
im 20 5'9 217lb 14.5%bf

 

[ran_azrad]

thanks pineapple and Darko...

 

[eastarr69]

You do not need to change your workouts. You do not need to workout more often or longer. Keep your workouts to one bodypart per week and no more than 1 hr per day, 1hr meaning you're working out and not just talking to other people.

You can overtrain just as easy on steroids as you can without them. I've had plenty of experience with this so I know more so than others do.

I've over trained my rear delts, abs, front delts, biceps. All while on cycle and eating plenty of calories.

Keep in mind, this is based on a muscle per week at 15-25sets per workout.

this is incorrect in one instance, depends on what you are trying to do..if you are on a bulk cycle, you need to adjust your trainig for heavier weight etc...if you are going for muscular definition, you need to adjust for higher reps...not to mention that diet while training on a cycle is also part of the training and you have to adjust that also..

 

[eastarr69]

also, it would be good to see what your cycle consisites of?

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[eastarr69]

also, i see mention of plenty of calories, make sure those are clean calories with the correct amount of protein, carbs, fat and so on..

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[windshield]

You do not need to change your workouts. You do not need to workout more often or longer. Keep your workouts to one bodypart per week and no more than 1 hr per day, 1hr meaning you're working out and not just talking to other people.

This is a pretty ridiculous statement considering it varies greatly on the individual and this particular person has given you zero information about himself.

To the OP - I (as well as many others I have worked with) see better results with working each muscle group twice per week - other have to move it to twice in a 10 day period.

 

[ran_azrad]

also, it would be good to see what your cycle consisites of?

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test cypionate 650mg for 12 weeks
naposim 25mg ED 4 weeks

 

[pineapple]

This is a pretty ridiculous statement considering it varies greatly on the individual and this particular person has given you zero information about himself.

To the OP - I (as well as many others I have worked with) see better results with working each muscle group twice per week - other have to move it to twice in a 10 day period.

That statement was based on his already established workout routine. Which is one muscle group per week, this is what the majority of guys do and is common.

Sure you can workout each muscle group twice per week, but that will vary in the sets compared to doing it once per week. Training to strength would be ideal per 2x week, adjusting the sets. But this will lead to, in the long run, to injury.

 

[musclesntx]

That statement was based on his already established workout routine. Which is one muscle group per week, this is what the majority of guys do and is common.

Sure you can workout each muscle group twice per week, but that will vary in the sets compared to doing it once per week. Training to strength would be ideal per 2x week, adjusting the sets. But this will lead to, in the long run, to injury.

You do not need to change your workouts. You do not need to workout more often or longer. Keep your workouts to one bodypart per week and no more than 1 hr per day, 1hr meaning you're working out and not just talking to other people.

You can overtrain just as easy on steroids as you can without them. I've had plenty of experience with this so I know more so than others do.

I've over trained my rear delts, abs, front delts, biceps. All while on cycle and eating plenty of calories.

Keep in mind, this is based on a muscle per week at 15-25sets per workout.

First off, learn the difference between "overuse" and "overtraining". Overtraining is a cumulative state that the entire body goes in, and basically refers to the body's ability to not only produce numerous anabolic hormones, but also its sensitivity level to said hormones. You don't overtrain a specific bodypart... View a training cycle as a whole, not as several individual workouts. It's not that one workout that is going to make you gain muscle, but multiple workouts with progression that will make a difference in your physique. As long as an individual is cycling intensity (progressing while having determined periods of lower intensity), eating that matches their training and properly recovering, they'll avoid overtraining.

Furthermore, I agree with JLozan - you know nothing about this guy to drop that advice. You don't know how much rest he is getting, the calories he is consuming, the intensity he is working out at, how much shit he is taking (you didn't know when you posted your response, he has since responded), how long his training cycles v. deloading cycles are, his training experience, stress levels, age or anything else, and I'm quite certain that these can all factor in to whether or not someone is in the state of overtraining.

LOL - and how the fuck will training a bodypart 2x per week lead to injury? If you do 15-25 sets per bodypart 2x per week, maybe. From your posts that I've read, you know a hell of a lot more about the tendencies of homosexuals than you do about actual training.

Ran_azrad - everyone is different on this. When I'm working with guys that are running different cycles, they prepare their gear cycles around their training cycles. Hence, they're rested and ready to jam for 8-12 weeks (with maybe a slight downtime somewhere in the middle to keep recovery and growth at a max). The gear and the nutrition simply support the training.

Listen to your body my man, and remember that you grow while at rest and not while you're training - the training is only the stimulus.

Good luck bubba.

 

[pineapple]

First off, learn the difference between "overuse" and "overtraining". Overtraining is a cumulative state that the entire body goes in, First off, learn that there is whole system overtraining where the entire body is affected and there is specific muscle overtraining, where the specific muscle will be sore for over 2months and will ache and lose strength . This will happen if you put the muscle in overuse in a short period of time. and basically refers to the body's ability to not only produce numerous anabolic hormones, but also its sensitivity level to said hormones. You don't overtrain a specific bodypart..Wow, just because it hasn't happend to you or you failed to diagnose it doesnt mean it's not there. If you want to experience it, train your biceps 3 times per week for 15sets and do this for a couple of week, then let me know what happends. View a training cycle as a whole, not as several individual workouts. It's not that one workout that is going to make you gain muscle, but multiple workouts with progression that will make a difference in your physique. As long as an individual is cycling intensity (progressing while having determined periods of lower intensity), eating that matches their training and properly recovering, they'll avoid overtraining.

Furthermore, I agree with JLozan - you know nothing about this guy to drop that advice. You don't know how much rest he is getting, the calories he is consuming, the intensity he is working out at, how much shit he is taking (you didn't know when you posted your response, he has since responded), It was a safe assumption based on how every amateur trains. It's the basics. And he confirmed it. how long his training cycles v. deloading cycles are, his training experience, stress levels, age or anything else, and I'm quite certain that these can all factor in to whether or not someone is in the state of overtraining.

LOL - and how the fuck will training a bodypart 2x per week lead to injury? If you do 15-25 sets per bodypart 2x per week, maybe. Hey idiot, are you actually implying that everyone is the same and that someone will not actually do damage to their connective tissue if they workout heavy 2x per week?? From your posts that I've read, you know a hell of a lot more about the tendencies of homosexuals than you do about actual training.

Ran_azrad - everyone is different on this. When I'm working with guys that are running different cycles, they prepare their gear cycles around their training cycles. Hence, they're rested and ready to jam for 8-12 weeks (with maybe a slight downtime somewhere in the middle to keep recovery and growth at a max). The gear and the nutrition simply support the training.

Listen to your body my man, and remember that you grow while at rest and not while you're training - the training is only the stimulus.

Good luck bubba.

The main point was to grow, you need consistency in training. If you dont have that, you wont grow. And for your dumbass, I'm not saying he'll keep growing to 300lbs, he'll eventually have to change things like upping the calories and changing his workouts.

I dont expect you to understand this since you're mentally challenged. You should blame your mother.

 

[theincredible1]

The main point was to grow, you need consistency in training. If you dont have that, you wont grow. And for your dumbass, I'm not saying he'll keep growing to 300lbs, he'll eventually have to change things like upping the calories and changing his workouts.

I dont expect you to understand this since you're mentally challenged. You should blame your mother.

lmao.. I agreed wit you dont worry

 

[mcchunter]

musclestx

i agree with jlozan and musclentx

these guys have been training for a long time and know their shit.


what is your diet like?

sounds like to me you are a little anxious about your cycle

your pretty big at your height and weight.

relax and do what you have been doing and have a good ride

 

[eastarr69]

The main point was to grow, you need consistency in training. If you dont have that, you wont grow. And for your dumbass, I'm not saying he'll keep growing to 300lbs, he'll eventually have to change things like upping the calories and changing his workouts.

I dont expect you to understand this since you're mentally challenged. You should blame your mother.

This totaly negates your first reply to the original thread. Maybe if one would have used this in the first reply, no one would have gotten on your ass??? I am still befuddled about your inital reply. either way, after sorting out this thread, there are some very good points here....ran_azrad, there are many answers, but always remeber, when on you need to train differently, no matter what..especially with your cycle...seems to be a mass cycle to me, especially with the naps..so go on up to the 5X5 thread and run that while on, when you hit plateaus, drop the reps some mor to maybe 3. go heavier, and remember what muscles go into each exercise, for example, bench is not just chest, but involves backs, shoulders, tris etc..and focus on thos also..you do not need to do 25 sets to grow....research is the key...

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[FerrariF50]

i think if you need to ask this question you shouldnt be on gear.
good luck.