Tren/prop cycle.....3j and andromed style

[spidartanks]

Please critique and help as necessary: especially with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) abd ai's


My planned cycle

29 yr old. 4th cycle. I ran tren Test before at 525prop. 525tren a week each (. 75ed)

Havn't cycled in 1.5 years. I stopped because I had back acne I hated.. I went on Accutane through dermatologist cleared up. I want to run light Accutane dose during cycle (not pharmacy grade unfortunately)
Got awesome results last time. super cut. Now with 3j diet on my side and andromed gear. I'm looking for better results.. Goal: lean bulk.

Training split:
Chest./tri
Back/bi
Shoulders/abs
Legs
Arms/abs
Rest (maybe cardio)
Rest

Gear: aka OJ (gf and I code word)
2 prop (100mg/ml)
6 trenbo test (120mg tren 60prop/ml)

Wk 1-10: tren 0.85mg ed (600/wk)
Wk 1-12: test prop 0.45 ed (300/wk)
5-7days after last pin start pct

*if libido needs I can bump test up seperate or bump tren from 600 to 700 increasing prop from 300 to 350/wk

Pct:
Hcg blast: 5000ui mix with 5 ml bac water. (enough for 5 1000ui eod pins?)
***Taken after last pin up to 4 days before first Serm..... Using prop how do I run this?

Nolva: start 5-7days after last prop injection at 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid: 5-7 days after last prop injection at 50/50/50/50
DAA - d- aspartic acid (test booster)


Anti Prolactin:
Prami: 0.125mg(1/8) to 0.5mg(1/2)
***thinking of taking ed 2-4hrs before bed but also reading about sides. May just have on hand in case and stick with aromasin during cycle.... Possibly Letrizole too....

Ai:
Aromasin 6.25ed (to start, will raise if issue occurs) taken from start through the end of pct.

Shit... Only have 90 6.25pills..enough beginning to end of 12wk cycle.
Not enough for post cycle therapy (pct).
Any suggestions with working in Letrizole? (worst case I can order more from andromed)

Letrizole: on hand in case I need more severe estrogen crushing power.
Side note: I do have a slight lump as of recent in my left nipple..never had any gyno issues from cycling before . finished last cycle a year and a half almost 2 years ago (tren and prop) Got it checked out at doctor he wasn't concerned but if I could fix the issue while on cycle that would be amazing. Any recommendations?)

Other support:
Acne support: Accutane at 20mg/day. (Will increase as necessary)
Also dish soap showers and tanning and I have a topical cream (forget name)
Liver support: Liv52.
Apple cider vinigar (skin help too)
Chlosterol support: lipid stabil
Hair care: Anti dht shampoo (dht growganics shampoo and Alpecin c shampoo) and
Rogaine 5 percent minoxidil

° supplements
Fish Oil pills
Multi vitamin
Creatine (assume I should take still)
Whey
Glutamine
Bcaa
Pre workout (C4 and white flood)

Diet: 3j......

Ready to kick aas... Ass

 

[spidartanks]

Bump anyone...

Loooking at startinf tomorrow if all looks good

prami,letrozolol, chlosterol lipid stabil are in mail should be here any day.but rest is here good to go

 

[Trust_]

You dont need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) imo, Tren doesnt convert into estro, so no use for an aromatase inhibitor. (300 prop might not aromatise either)
Im also unsure about the anti- prolactin... Do you really need to be pro active or why not wait to see if you get sides... Im not a big fan of taking chemicals if i dont need to
The rest looks great!!
3J diet + AML Tren and Test = WIN for sure lol

 

[TLG]

Whats ur stats and lift maxes?

 

[spidartanks]

Thanks trust...
Makes sense about not taking chemicals if not needed.

What abour the letro with slight gyno now to fix while on cycle.

Will Aromatase inhibitor (AI) not help..even with acne sides. A low does. 6.25 ed or eod


Stats: 5'8 200lbs
lifts
Squat 450lbs x3
deadlift 510x3
Bench 105 db x 8 (weak)
row 285x4
shoulder press seated db: 100

 

[spidartanks]

it cant hurt taking aromasin for a small dose tho can it?
.i took it before and had no issues

 

[Jt79zxt]

I would do the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) .. Small dose..

Looks good .. I'm thinking something like that cycle in the spring .. Feedback from 3j's is good

Kill it

 

[spidartanks]

*** i did some more reading.

should i START post cycle therapy (pct) 3 days AFTER last prop injection?

also i'd still like to hear some help with the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). cheers

 

[DD55]

I think u need to mix 1 ml of bac water to a 5000 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to make it 500 per iu. If you add 2 ml it makes it 250 iu, etc. got this from another Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mixing thread. It's also the ratio I'm using to do my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast at 500 iu for 10 days....

 

[Trust_]

I think u need to mix 1 ml of bac water to a 5000 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to make it 500 per iu. If you add 2 ml it makes it 250 iu, etc. got this from another Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mixing thread. It's also the ratio I'm using to do my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast at 500 iu for 10 days....

I use 2 ratios, sometimes ill do 1ml per 1000 iu, or sometimes ill do 1 ml per 2000 iu.
Mixing 1 ml to 5000 iu will give 1000 iu per 0.2 ml, which is too concentrated imo, unless u want to do the 5000 iu in one shot.
I find that doing 1 ml per 1000 iu ( 5ml for a 5000 iu bottle) is the simplest way to go. Its 100 iu per 0.1 ml