Hey guys, i'm interested in starting my first cycle using 50mg/day, for 8 weeks, using nolvadex for the post cycle therapy (pct). i'm going to be eating and lifting heavy, i'm planning on running my post cycle therapy (pct) for 4 weeks, or should i go longer? sorry if this topic has already been covered, but the only info i could find were guys stacking turinabol. i'm planning on using turinabol only(oral) for 8 weeks followed by a nolvadex post cycle therapy (pct). thanks in advance for your input
turinabol cycle question
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Polynikes666
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Putting it mildly...not a good first cycle.
What is your age, weight, height, lifting, AAS experience etc? We need more info to help.
Poly
What is your age, weight, height, lifting, AAS experience etc? We need more info to help.
Poly
currently 170 lbs, but have been cutting to lose bodyfat due to not training for a couple months. i am planning on consuming 1000 cals over maintenance when on cycle, possibly more, and lifting heavy 4-5 days a week. i'm only looking to gain 10-12 pounds, and hopefully keep around 8 of it with a good pct and post cycle diet and training routine. thanks alot
thanks for the reply. which test should i choose? also, how much weight should i expect to gain on that cycle and what will the ratio be like as far as water retention is concerned? i understand that tbol is mild with water retention, but i'm not sure about test. should i start the tbol several weeks after the test or begin both simultaneously? thanks again for the help
also, what about stacking dianabol with primobolan? i understand that these are both orals, and it is generally frowned upon to stack two orals. can someone explain why it is generally discouraged to stack two orals? i have been researching as much as possible, and plan to do so for several more weeks before even thinking of taking AS, i just want to make sure i'm doing what's best for my goals and body. thanks alot.
couple of things.
1... people were asking for your AGE but you never gave it.
2.... if you've never bulked before then you need to be bulking natty before bulking with gear. you need to learn how to eat and train for muscle growth. without that, the gear might make you put on some mass, but you won't be prepared to maintain that long term.
3.... and this is more like 2b.... you don't need gear to put on 8-12 pounds of muscle on your frame. 5'9 170 lean is not a terrible starting point, but you're far from peaking out. even if you aren't young and don't have quite as much test running around in your system (you can get bloods done for 50 bucks that will tell you for sure) you should be able to break 180 without much difficulty. i say without much difficulty i'm talking the logistics here. of course it will take pain and sweat and discipline in and more importantly OUT of the gym and time.... but the steps are simple.
once you start learning how to bulk properly for your body you'll realize that you don't need the gear.
1... people were asking for your AGE but you never gave it.
2.... if you've never bulked before then you need to be bulking natty before bulking with gear. you need to learn how to eat and train for muscle growth. without that, the gear might make you put on some mass, but you won't be prepared to maintain that long term.
3.... and this is more like 2b.... you don't need gear to put on 8-12 pounds of muscle on your frame. 5'9 170 lean is not a terrible starting point, but you're far from peaking out. even if you aren't young and don't have quite as much test running around in your system (you can get bloods done for 50 bucks that will tell you for sure) you should be able to break 180 without much difficulty. i say without much difficulty i'm talking the logistics here. of course it will take pain and sweat and discipline in and more importantly OUT of the gym and time.... but the steps are simple.
once you start learning how to bulk properly for your body you'll realize that you don't need the gear.
thanks for the reply. thought i posted my age, but i'm 26. i am currently bulking, and don't plan on getting on gear until i reach 180-185. in the meantime i wanted to research and learn all i coud while getting my body ready.
People often suggest testosterone enanthate or cypionate as a first cycle, but I dipped my toe in the water with a turinabol-only cycle, and I recommend it. I only ran it for three and a half weeks the first time, at 50mg a day, followed by basic PCT with tamoxifen.
I gained about 13lb of dry muscle, with negligible side-effects. 8 weeks is quite a long time to run a methylated oral steroid, but thousands of athletes in the former East Germany ran very long Tbol cycles. I recommend a 1 month cycle, or it could be hard to revive your balls at the end.
Here are a few of my thoughts on Turinabol (I have since used it as a kickstart to a testosterone cycle, too)
It doesn't bloat you like dianabol, or dry you out like winstrol. You sort of stay the same on Tbol.
I feel good on it, and libido is neautral or slightly improved (at least for the first month). It will shut down your HPTA, but not as fast as many other steroids.
It has a certain "rhythm" that, if you get in sync with it, you will add half a lb of muscle a day.
Spread the dose out throughout the day. Eat protein throughout the day. train every day, medium weights, don't go for personal bests. Tbol will make that protein stick to your bones - it's a great nitrogen retention agent.
Recovery after training is fast with Tbol. I'm 43, and I can train every day with only that "good" ache the following day.
It makes me crave food - but only protein. I dream about thick steaks washed down with whey protein shakes.
You don't need to take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERM on a Tbol cycle - estrogenic effects are negligible.
Turinabol is basically dianabol with a chlorine atom in a position on the molecule which stops it from aromatizing - it's like dianabol V 2.0. Dianabol pills are the absolute cheapest steroid, but Tbol isn't much more expensive. It has a longer plasma half-life, the gains are muscle rather than muscle and water, and in my opinion, it's the most versatile oral steroid.
I gained about 13lb of dry muscle, with negligible side-effects. 8 weeks is quite a long time to run a methylated oral steroid, but thousands of athletes in the former East Germany ran very long Tbol cycles. I recommend a 1 month cycle, or it could be hard to revive your balls at the end.
Here are a few of my thoughts on Turinabol (I have since used it as a kickstart to a testosterone cycle, too)
It doesn't bloat you like dianabol, or dry you out like winstrol. You sort of stay the same on Tbol.
I feel good on it, and libido is neautral or slightly improved (at least for the first month). It will shut down your HPTA, but not as fast as many other steroids.
It has a certain "rhythm" that, if you get in sync with it, you will add half a lb of muscle a day.
Spread the dose out throughout the day. Eat protein throughout the day. train every day, medium weights, don't go for personal bests. Tbol will make that protein stick to your bones - it's a great nitrogen retention agent.
Recovery after training is fast with Tbol. I'm 43, and I can train every day with only that "good" ache the following day.
It makes me crave food - but only protein. I dream about thick steaks washed down with whey protein shakes.
You don't need to take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERM on a Tbol cycle - estrogenic effects are negligible.
Turinabol is basically dianabol with a chlorine atom in a position on the molecule which stops it from aromatizing - it's like dianabol V 2.0. Dianabol pills are the absolute cheapest steroid, but Tbol isn't much more expensive. It has a longer plasma half-life, the gains are muscle rather than muscle and water, and in my opinion, it's the most versatile oral steroid.
thanks. definetly some of the best feedback i've received so far. so you don't think i should even keep nolvadex on hand in case side effects appear? i was planning on dosing it 50mg per day, 20mg in the morning, 10mg preworkout, and 10mg evening. would 6 weeks be optimal for a cycle? thanks again
glubgawd
More Noob Than You
You'll definitely need the nolvadex for your PCT, but not whilst taking the Tbol.
I have hundreds of the blue heart dianabols sitting around, but i'll probably never use them. Just two 10mg dianabols in 24 hours makes me blow up like a water balloon, but no such effects for me with its Tbol brother, even at 70mg a day.
I'm a chemist, and I think of turinabol and Dianabol as brother and sister. Tbol is definitely the brother, its got an extra chromasome and so doesn't grow boobs.
I have hundreds of the blue heart dianabols sitting around, but i'll probably never use them. Just two 10mg dianabols in 24 hours makes me blow up like a water balloon, but no such effects for me with its Tbol brother, even at 70mg a day.
I'm a chemist, and I think of turinabol and Dianabol as brother and sister. Tbol is definitely the brother, its got an extra chromasome and so doesn't grow boobs.
nah you just posted your weight again.
your goals said 10-12lbs, keep 8, sounded like one of those that comes in wanting to fill out about 10lbs but stay lean and not get keep growing "get huge."
Did you just mean that was your temporary goal for this particular cycle?
in any case, test as a base is crucial bro, for all kinds of reasons. everyone always equates test with bloat and fat/water gain but really it is probably more diet issues than anything else that causes that. some people have done it. great. it worked for one guy. cool. doesn't change the fact that it is still not fuck'n smart. if you are going to continue using aas, you should start using them PROPERLY from the get-go, not find excuses to do stupid shit at first and "correct" it later (not saying you are gonna do this just sayin...)
why do something half-assed first just because you can do it "right" the next time.
if you are gonna build a house but don't know shit about foundations you learn it and do it right. otherwise, even though you might feel like you are saving time and money, in the long run it will cost you a lot more and consume an increasing amount of time.
know what I mean?
ok, once again, thanks for the feedback. to answer your question, i am not planning on using aas continuously, at least that's my plan now, but we all know things change. i have heard that from numerous people now; that i should use test as part of my first cycle. could someone also enlighten me as to why it is discouraged to run two orals together? for instance, dianabol and primobolan, seeing as one has no liver toxicity issues? my goal is to gain 10-12 lbs of muscle and hopefully be able to maintain 8 of it. thanks alot
LANDSCAPE1
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Hey guys... with TBOL do u guys feel like u keep any of your gains.... ive been hearing they disapear fast
BigBlackguy
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They really shouldn't. Turinabol has a high rate of gain retention. This is only true for those who run a decent PCT, like the TRS from Primordial stacked with a SERM, or simply a SERM for those looking for a cheaper route.
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