Tweaking Over (I Think) Just Need The Thumbs Up..

[PleaseHelpFitness]

Hi,

I've been posting, tweaking, reading, tweaking, learning... yes you guessed it more tweaking..

Lil about me-

I'm nearly 40, been training for years and years.. and years and been working in a gym for a good 15.. ish, lol

This is my second cycle my first was an anavar only (Steady people, lol)
Yes I know about the oral only but I have to say I made great gains and although I lost about 6lb (due I THINK to not getting my test levels back quick enough, Oh by the way var does shut ya down )

This time Im adding test at a low dose. I know its a low dose and I know I'm going to be told to increase it but I'm going to error on the side of caution. I dont want to be a monster just add some size, I know I can do it on the var so even the low dose of test has got to help...

I originaly posted this cycle to another board -

Week 1-4 : Test Cyp 250
Week 4-8 : Test Cyp 300
Week 8-12: Test Cyp 250

Week 8 Adding 60 var
Week 9 Adding 70 var
Week 10 Adding 80 var
Week 11 Adding 80 var
Week 12 Adding 70 var
Week 13 Adding 60 var

PCT

Clomid

1 week at 100
1 week at 50
1 week at 50
1 week at 25

nolva

1 week at 40
1 week at 20
1 week at 20
1 week at 20


Will be adding the usual trib, zma, milk thistle, liv 52, creatine, etc etc etc

After reading and taking in the help and advice I was offered I have now come to the conclusion that this cycle is the one to go with-


WEEKS 1-10 Test Cyp 200mg E4D
WEEKS 6-12 anavar 70mg ED

WEEKS 12-16 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
WEEKS 12-16 Clomid 100/50/50/25

Arimadex on hand

My last question was I've been advised to run hcg from start to finish. I dont want any extra pin work so read I could add it to my test shot ?
If I was hitting the test every 4th day how much hcg would I need to add ?
I read 500iu twice a week but that wasnt for a dose as low as my test ????

Apart from that I'm there yes ???
Thanks loads as always

 

[ezred]

new setup looks better. makes more sense to just keep your levels the same from what i understand, though the old broscience often seemed to say taper up and down it seems. same steady dose just makes more sense to me...

for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), i think 250-500iu per week makes sense. it doesn't matter whether your dose is 400mg/week or 800mg/week test will shut you down pretty quick and keep you that way so the 500iu that you're hearing should be totally fine for your test dosage as well.... but i've read about people doing 250 a week and liking that.

pick one and try it out!

tweak as necessary...

you can do all the thinking and planning precycle, but you need to be ready and able to make mid-cycle tweaks as well.

Hi,

I've been posting, tweaking, reading, tweaking, learning... yes you guessed it more tweaking..

Lil about me-

I'm nearly 40, been training for years and years.. and years and been working in a gym for a good 15.. ish, lol

This is my second cycle my first was an anavar only (Steady people, lol)
Yes I know about the oral only but I have to say I made great gains and although I lost about 6lb (due I THINK to not getting my test levels back quick enough, Oh by the way var does shut ya down )

This time Im adding test at a low dose. I know its a low dose and I know I'm going to be told to increase it but I'm going to error on the side of caution. I dont want to be a monster just add some size, I know I can do it on the var so even the low dose of test has got to help...

I originaly posted this cycle to another board -

Week 1-4 : Test Cyp 250
Week 4-8 : Test Cyp 300
Week 8-12: Test Cyp 250

Week 8 Adding 60 var
Week 9 Adding 70 var
Week 10 Adding 80 var
Week 11 Adding 80 var
Week 12 Adding 70 var
Week 13 Adding 60 var

PCT

Clomid

1 week at 100
1 week at 50
1 week at 50
1 week at 25

nolva

1 week at 40
1 week at 20
1 week at 20
1 week at 20


Will be adding the usual trib, zma, milk thistle, liv 52, creatine, etc etc etc

After reading and taking in the help and advice I was offered I have now come to the conclusion that this cycle is the one to go with-


WEEKS 1-10 Test Cyp 200mg E4D
WEEKS 6-12 anavar 70mg ED

WEEKS 12-16 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
WEEKS 12-16 Clomid 100/50/50/25

Arimadex on hand

My last question was I've been advised to run hcg from start to finish. I dont want any extra pin work so read I could add it to my test shot ?
If I was hitting the test every 4th day how much hcg would I need to add ?
I read 500iu twice a week but that wasnt for a dose as low as my test ????

Apart from that I'm there yes ???
Thanks loads as always

 

[PleaseHelpFitness]

Hey,

Thanks for your input.
Me personaly prefer the taper (Maybe just a head thing) but a lot of users are telling me it messes with your blood levels so I scrapped it.

So if I'm hitting test every 4 days (As opposed to once a week which I'd prefer) Would the HCG be added to one shot of test every week at 500iu or in both the shots at say 200iu's....

That makes sense right, lol
Thanks for your reply much appreciated

 

[ezred]

i've heard that hcg works well split into 2 shots per week.... so a couple of 200-250iu shots per week.

Hey,

Thanks for your input.
Me personaly prefer the taper (Maybe just a head thing) but a lot of users are telling me it messes with your blood levels so I scrapped it.

So if I'm hitting test every 4 days (As opposed to once a week which I'd prefer) Would the HCG be added to one shot of test every week at 500iu or in both the shots at say 200iu's....

That makes sense right, lol
Thanks for your reply much appreciated

 

[PleaseHelpFitness]

Your a star thanks.
I think I'm there...
I'll just wait a bit longer for any more input / advice...

Thanks again

 

[RJ]

Hey,

Thanks for your input.
Me personaly prefer the taper (Maybe just a head thing) but a lot of users are telling me it messes with your blood levels so I scrapped it.

So if I'm hitting test every 4 days (As opposed to once a week which I'd prefer) Would the HCG be added to one shot of test every week at 500iu or in both the shots at say 200iu's....

That makes sense right, lol
Thanks for your reply much appreciated

you don't mix the test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). Use a slin pin for the HCG and shoot it sub-q.

As for your cycle, it is light, but nothing wrong with that. Better than most of the retarded cycles I've seen. Var is weak, but whatever works for you. You're gonna see a huge difference just adding the test.

And drop the taper. its worthless and just causes blood level issues.

btw, how tall and how much do you weigh?

 

[PleaseHelpFitness]

Yeah the tapers gone, lol

Not sure what you mean by -
"you don't mix the test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). Use a slin pin for the HCG and shoot it sub-q. "
But I'm gonna look into that (I may well be back to bug ya, lol)

Yeah I know its light but I want to see how my body reacts to a light cycle rather than jump into something silly.

I'm 175cm weighing in at a huge 196lb
I know I need to eat more, but like I said earlier getting huge isnt my goal.

Thanks loads for your input

 

[RJ]

Yeah the tapers gone, lol

Not sure what you mean by -
"you don't mix the test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). Use a slin pin for the HCG and shoot it sub-q. "
But I'm gonna look into that (I may well be back to bug ya, lol)

Yeah I know its light but I want to see how my body reacts to a light cycle rather than jump into something silly.

I'm 175cm weighing in at a huge 196lb
I know I need to eat more, but like I said earlier getting huge isnt my goal.

Thanks loads for your input

thats not a bad size at that height at all.

what i mean is, you don't mix HCG and your test in the same syringe.

You can inject HCG IM but its best IMO to do it sub-q (pinch a piece of fat at your waistline and inject it into that pocket). You use insulin needles for this.

 

[PleaseHelpFitness]

Ahhh got ya ..

Thanks loads, so what ya saying is....
Your giving me the thumbs up, lol

196lbs isnt bad...
Oh did I tell you I'm 42% body fat, lol

Thanks again for taking the time to help out

 

[RJ]

Ahhh got ya ..

Thanks loads, so what ya saying is....
Your giving me the thumbs up, lol

196lbs isnt bad...
Oh did I tell you I'm 42% body fat, lol

Thanks again for taking the time to help out

haha. again, wouldn't be the stupidest thing I've seen on this board in almost 10 years.

good luck.