Using two orals at the same time...

[willpower]

Hi everyone. It has been a while since I was on this forum. but I have to say that all the info that I have gained from this forum has been invaluable to me. So thanks to all of you for being active members here.

Alright, now to the topic.
I usually run d-bol at the beginning of the cycle as a kick starter (for the first 4-5 weeks at a dose around 50 mg/day). What happens if I was to run t-bol and d-bol at 25mg/day of each. Would that have any more sides than if I was to take 50 mg of just d-bol (or T-bol). Also, what would be the effect on the resulting gains? will that yield any better results as in the quality of gains (for ex. less water weight..)

The reason I am asking this question is that I am curious about whether each oral need a certain dosage to be effective, or the dosage can be synergistic/additive between two orals/compounds!!

I'd like to hear your opinions and insights on this. Thank you guys

 

[TriniJuice]

25mg of tbol is a watse,
I wouldn't run 2 orals "at the same time"
Instead I'd run dbol 50mgs first 4weeks and tbol at 60-80mg the last 6weeks
*Edit* along with using test of course

 

[illumin4tion]

Where be the test.

 

[willpower]

I had mentioned that I use orals to kick start my cycle. I would never use a cycle without test. I usually use test e or cyp thats why I incorporate orals in such a cycle

 

[.308]

I was thinking today about this. 30-50mg dbol and 50mg tbol. 4-6wks on the dbol and run the tbol out longer by two or more weeks to give the harder and dryer look. glad you asked first. I didn't want to get scolded for thinking about 2 at once...

could check blood at 6 weeks to ensure the liver is not going fall out....

thoughts?

 

[.308]

yes 25mg tbol is not enough. 50mg is good to go. tbol is a great one. takes its time to effects but really nice look.

 

[willpower]

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[willpower]

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[willpower]

25mg of tbol is a watse,
I wouldn't run 2 orals "at the same time"
Instead I'd run dbol 50mgs first 4weeks and tbol at 60-80mg the last 6weeks
*Edit* along with using test of course

Thank you for your reply.
I was actually considering doing that but I have never used an oral towards the end of cycle. I wasnt sure if that would be very productive. I guess I have to try it to find out how it will affect my cycle

 

[willpower]

I was thinking today about this. 30-50mg dbol and 50mg tbol. 4-6wks on the dbol and run the tbol out longer by two or more weeks to give the harder and dryer look. glad you asked first. I didn't want to get scolded for thinking about 2 at once...

could check blood at 6 weeks to ensure the liver is not going fall out....

thoughts?

Yeah man dont hesitate to ask what comes to your mind. I rather ask than try something that couldnt be such a great idea because it made sense in my head.
Im not a fan of running orals for longer than 5 weeks. It is not worth risking damaging my liver. I usually check my liver enzymes and they tend to get elevated significantly while using dbol. I havent tried tbol but From what I read they both are harsh on our livers. I'd rather give my body a break and tale the tbol towards the end. Or maybe tale dbol at 50 mg for 2 weeks and tbol at 50 for 3 weeks after.

 

[Kazmir]

The flawed concept in the dbol tbol stack in my opinion is the fact that a person runs Tbol to avoid the water retention and the toxicity of dbol. Running the 2 together is kind of counter productive. I would understand something like tbol + var together or var + winny. As mentioned if your going to do dbol and tbol, I would do dbol first 4 weeks and tbol at the end of the cycle last 6 weeks with a minimum of 4 weeks between the orals as well as using 1200-1800mgs of NAC per day

 

[willpower]

The flawed concept in the dbol tbol stack in my opinion is the fact that a person runs Tbol to avoid the water retention and the toxicity of dbol. Running the 2 together is kind of counter productive. I would understand something like tbol + var together or var + winny. As mentioned if your going to do dbol and tbol, I would do dbol first 4 weeks and tbol at the end of the cycle last 6 weeks with a minimum of 4 weeks between the orals as well as using 1200-1800mgs of NAC per day

Thank you man for your comment. I will do as you have recommended. Im glad you had mentioned NAC as I wasnt sure if it actually helps with liver protection or not. Did you have any blood work done while taking NAC? Any difference in numbers?

 

[willpower]

Another question. If I was to use tbol at the end of the cycle. How long can I use it before I start PCT? I usually switch from test e/cyp to twst prop at the last 4 weeks so that I can start PCT earlier. Can I still take tbol until 3 days before I start PCT?