Very Hard Time With PCT

[MGunz]

I finished my cycle 6 weeks ago, and I just finished PCT.
My sex drive is so-so, but I am losing strength and weight by the day.
I lost ALL the weight I gained on cycle, and the pounds are still flying off me. I feel like Im shrinking. I am 5 pounds lighter than when I started the cycle, and Im still losing. I can't even get the calories in, because my appetite has dropped off severely.
As far as my strength goes I am losing every single workout. My muscles are fatiguing way faster than they should be. I don't know why im having such a hard time right now. This was my second cycle and my first was NO WHERE near as bad as this. This is really making me just want to go back on cycle right now, and I am considering it.
Sorry to sound like a bitch, but I just need to get this shit off my chest. I think a few weeks off from the gym might be my best bet at this point. any advice?

 

[Cam01]

Damn, that sucks, bro. What are you using for post cycle therapy (pct)? I just ordered my cycle today. Test C & Winstrol (winny). I hope it doesn't go like yours. Im running Nolva for PCT.

 

[snigg]

what was your cycle?

what was your pct?

eat bro!

 

[MGunz]

Damn, that sucks, bro. What are you using for post cycle therapy (pct)? I just ordered my cycle today. Test C & Winstrol (winny). I hope it doesn't go like yours.

I ran Nolva and Clomid for 3 weeks. Been done for a week now.
40/20/20
100/50/50
I also used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the whole cycle.
The cycle itself was pretty damn good. I fluctuated a lot because I ran a lot of different gear, but I was the biggest I ever was and lowest bf I ever was at the same time. I am just having a reallly hard time now that Im off. I don't remember natty training being this damn hard.

 

[TJR87]

Definitely need some more cycle/pct info here to help you out. As far as your losses in weight/strength, I also seem to drop some weight after using Nolva for pct(about 5 lbs) but I dont really lose much strength. Keep in mind I was using Test E on cycle so I don't look at losing 5lbs as horrible thing because I do retain some water from Test.

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I usually run nolva for 5 weeks to stay on the safe side. 3 weeks sounds short to me. What gear did you cycle and for how long?

 

[snigg]

why only three weeks of post cycle therapy (pct)? the typical protocol is at least 4 weeks.

 

[MGunz]

why only three weeks of post cycle therapy (pct)? the typical protocol is at least 4 weeks.

was going to go 4 weeks, but on top of what I mentioned, I broke out with the worst acne I have ever had first week of PCT. It had been getting worse all through PCT, so I decided to cut it after 3 weeks and it seems to be getting a lil better. I thought it might be the clomid doing it. maybe I should start running nolva again?

 

[MGunz]

what was your cycle?

what was your pct?

eat bro!

and thank you for that post. It made me go down a bowl of rice and protein shake.

 

[Cam01]

and thank you for that post. It made me go down a bowl of rice and protein shake.

lol

 

[JamieOleBoy]

you have yet to tell us what your cycle was....it's the only way we can help bro..

 

[MGunz]

you have yet to tell us what your cycle was....it's the only way we can help bro..

Sust 1-17 750mg
DBol 1-4
Deca 1-6 (dropped the deca early)
Tren A 8-13

 

[MGunz]

I should also add I'v been taking antibiotics (Cipro) for the last 21 days for the post cycle acne. Could this have something to do with it?

 

[juced_porkchop]

I ran Nolva and Clomid for 3 weeks. Been done for a week now.
40/20/20
100/50/50
I also used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the whole cycle.
The cycle itself was pretty damn good. I fluctuated a lot because I ran a lot of different gear, but I was the biggest I ever was and lowest bf I ever was at the same time. I am just having a reallly hard time now that Im off. I don't remember natty training being this damn hard.

I usually only rec this for the last 4-6 weeks of cycle so as not to desensitize your testies WICH CAN HAPPEN.

I would rec getting HCGenerate asap.

alot seem to be liking it alot.
its a natty product wich could help.

hope you feel better soon man!

 

[snigg]

jump back on the nolva for two weeks and see if it helps bring you back. oh yea, EAT!

 

[TheMilkMan]

Sounds like you could also be over-training. I would cut back the intensity of your training for a little bit and drop all of your cardio immediately if you are doing any. Try to eat incredibly calorie dense foods (ie. bagels instead of brown rice or steaks instead of chicken) to keep your calories up as high as possible.

Sounds like something went wrong though and I'm sorry to hear it.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

im sorry to hear it as well brother, i can tell you this i stopped my deca about 2-3weeks ago and im still on test..........and im having one helluva time going to the gym, im extremely fatigued and un-motivated

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

how much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) did you use?

 

[MGunz]

how much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) did you use?

yoooo whatup OAK? I used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if I can remember from weeks like 4-12 than again from 16-18 at 250iu e4d.
You have no idea how tempted I am to jump back on cycle. I know that's a bad move though. If I do that I'd def. have testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in the future.
It's funny because you really dont appreciate the power of AAS until there not in your body anymore.

you really loved that deca huh?

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

im sorry to hear it as well brother, i can tell you this i stopped my deca about 2-3weeks ago and im still on test..........and im having one helluva time going to the gym, im extremely fatigued and un-motivated

lmao.. im going throught he same fucking thing bro.. stopped deca 2weeks ago and im running the test another 3weeks.. i feel like dogshit.. tired and run down.. as for the OP eat bro.. i personally would not take a few weeks off the gym like you suggested i like to keep intensity high when coming off but you have to force feed yourself.. when i use nolva for pct i lose a little more weight and tend to break out a little bit.. sorry to hear your struggling.. hang in there.. dont jump back on.. whether its now or later eventually your going to have to pay the piper..

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

honestly Mgunz im gonna tell you whats wrong with your PCT, it was the HCG.......with a heavier cycle like you did your gonna need waaay more than that to get the boys up and running fast my friend.......i know a lot of guys use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the way you did, but honestly ive found that is simply not enough to keep the boyz going, and at those dosages the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) didnt do much if anything at all.

its very important to blast your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the T decline as much as 1500iu EOD. this would have your balls running like a diesel engine.

so i would grab some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) asap. or hop back on some test asap and grab some HCG.

you want your balls running full steam when you come off. in order to avoid gyno i would grab a 5000iu bottle and run 500iu ED leading up to 4 days before your SERM.

you could go with 1000iu EOD but the higher you dose the more likely you are to get gyno. dont worry about desensitisation, its a myth, unless you dose 5000iu at a time.

if it were me i would grab prop. time your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to end the day your prop does, then hop on a combo of nolva and clomid. if that doesnt work then i dont know what will.