Vets: general test advice desired here

[99]

I plan to do:
Test cyp 500mg two 250mg shots a week. Possibly use arimdex for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during, and either nolvadex or clomid post cycle therapy (pct), 2 weeks after last pin.

Been working out for 5 years. 24 years old.
5'9 3/4". Ha. 175 lbs.

Used to work at neutriceutical comp, used to produce all dif supplements. All I have ever done was Arginine based sup, tribulus test booster (testevol). And the one thing that worked that we made was OMNEVOL. other than that strictly protein and some creatine when younger.

I have done a lot of research, I feel confident and feel I know just about everything I need for my first cycle. But I am very cautious, and would LOVE it if some of the VETS could just throw in any general tips and advice in regards to a first test cycle, possibly arimdex or nolvadex on hand for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) "during cycle" and clomid for post cycle therapy (pct). some say nolvadex post cycle therapy (pct) some say nolvadex during if u see signs of gyno, just looking for some good advice in GENERAL, not just on the post cycle therapy (pct). any tips you see helpful for a first cycle please share.
Again I have researched, just want to finalize with this thread, so please helpful, experienced guys I appreciate the advice.

 

[ardbeg]

i think Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a good thing to do if you can.

 

[99]

Also on a scale of 1-10 how much would u say doing a cycle or a couple affects you mentally. I have heard how great u feel when on test then when getting off u feel depressed.. Do you get back to your normal state after pct?

 

[99]

i think Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a good thing to do if you can.

Would you mind throwing in some support and clarity to your statement Above?
Thanks a lot for chiming in regardless!

 

[SquadLeader]

On a scale from 1-10 a cycle effects you at a 10. You feel so much better mentally and physically. Your first cycle is like a constant high. It feels great. I would suggest you choose Arimidex for your anti-estrogen. And start at 0.25mg every other day and increase as you need to. You need to have a proper pct ready and follow through with your supplementation, diet and training to help combat the effects of depression while coming off your steroid cycle.

 

[99]

Updated my original post with some more details TIA!!

 

[99]

It's amazing how there is always so much different views on the details of a cycle. Some say arimdex during isn't necessary, some say it is... Squad what would u recommend out of your personal opinion for a post cycle therapy (pct)? I def plan to do a traditional post cycle therapy (pct) (nolvadex and or clomid) just looking for some modern input, a lot of things I have read seem a bit old. Money is not a problem idc what I spend I want the cycle to be perfect with MINIMAL sides.

 

[99]

Also lmk reliable post cycle therapy (pct) place to get.

 

[ardbeg]

Also on a scale of 1-10 how much would u say doing a cycle or a couple affects you mentally.

Less than opiates or amphetamines (although not by much) and more than caffeine and ephedrine, if that helps.

 

[JimiThing]

run adex from jump as was stated. have your pct on hand before you start cycle. That way you have nolva on hand just in case. PCT i like nolva and clomid. Dr Scally , the foremost expert on treating steroid induced andropause , has peer reviewed published studies and hundrds of case studies showing the effctiveness of the combo. he has lso explained why both together are better than either alone. Id run something like nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 70/35/35/35 (i use rui liquids).
Best of luck

 

[99]

run adex from jump as was stated. have your post cycle therapy (pct) on hand before you start cycle. That way you have nolva on hand just in case. post cycle therapy (pct) i like nolva and clomid. Dr Scally , the foremost expert on treating steroid induced andropause , has peer reviewed published studies and hundrds of case studies showing the effctiveness of the combo. he has lso explained why both together are better than either alone. Id run something like nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 70/35/35/35 (i use rui liquids).
Best of luck

U say have nolvadex just in case, meaning use it during cycle in case of?? I thought the arimdex is for during cycle why would I use nolvadex during I have heard this before but unclear on why

 

[99]

Less than opiates or amphetamines (although not by much) and more than caffeine and ephedrine, if that helps.

Are you talking about when coming off the cycle or ever after post cycle therapy (pct) is done? Do u feel it affects ur emotions permanently?

 

[SquadLeader]

Also lmk reliable post cycle therapy (pct) place to get.

RUI is a good place to get your post cycle therapy (pct) they are on board here at Steroidology.

 

[JimiThing]

U say have nolvadex just in case, meaning use it during cycle in case of?? I thought the arimdex is for during cycle why would I use nolvadex during I have heard this before but unclear on why

You would BUT just in case you respond very poorly and get some gyno issues you at least have nolva to immediately take while you up Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage. Its just a precaution..prob not necessary , but you should have post cycle therapy (pct) beforehand anyway.

 

[99]

Ok so basically nolvadex is just a stronger chemical to add in addition to the arimdex in case of severe side effects?

 

[JimiThing]

Ok so basically nolvadex is just a stronger chemical to add in addition to the arimdex in case of severe side effects?

It (nolva) will block the estrogen receptor in breast tissue so it stops gyno in its tracks. Then you up the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and cease taking nolva. Like i said just a precaution. The Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will in all likelyhood (like 99.9%) be fine but def have your pct prior to starting cycle and do clomid and nolva.
Just my opinions
Best of luck

 

[99]

Cool thanks for the help, more perspective is always better

 

[99]

10 weeks at 500mg/week should be plenty for first cycle for me, I'm 175 I'd imagine that'd be plenty? I did review the sticky regarding the 300mg vs 600mg case study

 

[Cyclebrah]

For a 10 week cycle you will need 3 vials of test to make sure you have enough inase you mis dose or spill whatever.

Personally, I would just run a 12 week cycle. You're going to have 3 vials anyways so you might as well use the majority of it.

pct 14 days after last injection

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/50/50

Ai from day 1 to finish

Armidex .25 eod
or Aromasin 12.5 eod

Goodluck

Personally I wouldn't bother with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for a 1st test only cycle, but like you said earlier, if you can get it then why not eh?

 

[99]

AI from start all the way til the end of pct?