Went to Doctor for Valium and He Convinced me i have Low T....wtf

[WhiteDog]

Went to the DR today to get some Valium and Codiene for a back injury. Couldn't believe what happened next. He stated that weight loss would be of benefit, this i agree with, im not a fat fucker but i could certainly do with losing a few kgs. Next thing he is telling me i could have low T and i should get a test and if it is low i can go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and i would feel great..WTF

So i have to fast for 12 hours and go get some bloods done tomorrow. Im 42 and I've done a cycle or two in the past and suspect my levels may be in the low/normal range. Time will tell.

My question is... If i eat whilst i should be fasting... will this cause a decrease in my test levels?

He has asked for an insulin test as well as FSH and all the usual stuff. Just wondering if i was to eat, would it mess with any of my other Levels?

I boarder on fuck all sleep as it is as i am a night shift worker.

He has scheduled the Blood test for the morning, which is my evening as i finish work in the morning and it is the end of my day.

Let me explain where i am coming from. If the levels are low, i want them to be very low. I don't want a low normal result, bordering on maybe not needing TRT.

By the sounds of it this Doctor is quite exited to get me on board anyways....

I felt like asking him straight out for AAS, Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and a nice PCT to get me through my next cycle. Im sure he would have accommodated..HAHAHA

 

[halfwit]

You need to fast for the glucose test, it won't have an appreciable effect on your testosterone. It shouldn't really cause a change in anything else except for maybe BUN/Creatinine, but that's more closely linked to water and overall protein intake.

You'll probably see a change in up to 20% in total test, but if it's low - that won't mean much as 20% of 200 is 40 points. I can see that being an issue if you're sitting around 350, but even then, that's low for someone not wearing adult diapers. Your doctor might have been romanticized by the Eli Lily or Pfizer reps making office visits. There are a few new products out on the market, all of which are patented and big money earners for these pharmaceutical companies. He might be seeing dollar signs (I don't know your doc obviously so I might be off base here), so I would be wary if he busts out that god-awful DEODORANT STICK OF TEST that they're trying to pimp.

If he offers up Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and HCG, you're set man. Best of luck on that test however you want it to come back!

My .02c

 

[bushleaguechew]

If he tries to put you on any topical testosterone tell him you have heard of the side effects on women and young children and that you come into contact with yours frequently and wouldn't want to expose them.

 

[WhiteDog]

HAHAHA... cheers Halfwit. I like to perform at my best, so if its going to be low i would rather there be no doubt its low. If its Normal, well im lucky.

Im in Australia so not sure if those reps have been busting doors down around here. If hes going to put me on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) i will insist on injections as i have seen the patches and not sure that they are very efficient. I believe there is a 10% absorption rate and a few other disadvantages. This Doc does not fuck around so im sure he will sign me up for the best.

Im hoping my levels are normal. No point in shutting my self down and using a synthetic if im producing normal healthy levels of test.

HCG is very easy to get and quite cheap here. I have a frige full of it and havent touched it yet.

 

[WhiteDog]

If he tries to put you on any topical testosterone tell him you have heard of the side effects on women and young children and that you come into contact with yours frequently and wouldn't want to expose them.

Yes this was one of my other wild card. Wouldn't want my Wife to grow a penis...

 

[halfwit]

HAHAHA... cheers Halfwit. I like to perform at my best, so if its going to be low i would rather there be no doubt its low. If its Normal, well im lucky.

Im in Australia so not sure if those reps have been busting doors down around here. If hes going to put me on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) i will insist on injections as i have seen the patches and not sure that they are very efficient. I believe there is a 10% absorption rate and a few other disadvantages. This Doc does not fuck around so im sure he will sign me up for the best.

Im hoping my levels are normal. No point in shutting my self down and using a synthetic if im producing normal healthy levels of test.

HCG is very easy to get and quite cheap here. I have a frige full of it and havent touched it yet.

Niice. Yeah, we still have retards here that buy Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for fat loss like it's going out of style. Even though the FDA outlawed the advertising of it as such in 1974! Which of course makes it a bit more expensive and harder to obtain. Sounds like you're in good hands then.

Let us know how it goes!

 

[WhiteDog]

Niice. Yeah, we still have retards here that buy Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for fat loss like it's going out of style. Even though the FDA outlawed the advertising of it as such in 1974! Which of course makes it a bit more expensive and harder to obtain. Sounds like you're in good hands then.

Let us know how it goes!

Will do my man. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for weight loss?? the magic substance haha... Im all for diet, hard work and exercise, but lately its been getting me no were. Hormones might be the problem. who knows?

 

[WhiteDog]

Will post my results soon as i get them.

 

[DreDay187]

Will do my man. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for weight loss?? the magic substance haha... Im all for diet, hard work and exercise, but lately its been getting me no were. Hormones might be the problem. who knows?

Half is right, the US FDA banned marketing of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as a fat loss agent in '74. As we grow older our metabolisms slow down, this is normal. Do the test fasted as it could def affect testosterone levels (albeit it slightly) and glucose readings will also be affected. Another thing to look into would be a thyroid panel and see if your thyroid is in range. Good luck.

 

[WhiteDog]

Yes i believe he has requested a thyroid test. and cholesterol levels.

 

[simber]

Yea I side with Halfwit. What ever Drug Rep was in that day. Doc's get a kick back on scripts from the drug manufacture. You see something on TV, next office visit you'll all of a sudden need it. If he what's to put you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), tell him you would rather have injections. That way he'll give you Test Cyp most likely. And Watson Test Cyp is the best there is.. My2 c

 

[WhiteDog]

Well lets just hope that the "drug of the day" was a nice potent vial of test
What ever the cost, my health insurance here will pay for it
Australia customs are pricks, but our doctors are not too bad.
I wouldnt settle for anything less then injections my man. Especially Halfwits DEODORANT STICK OF TEST...LOL

 

[Spunkey71]

Just a thought here, I know that sleep affects Test levels, if possible try not sleeping the night before your blood draw and it might depress your levels a little, maybe enough to get you below the low/normal range.


Best of luck to you!

 

[WhiteDog]

Just a thought here, I know that sleep affects Test levels, if possible try not sleeping the night before your blood draw and it might depress your levels a little, maybe enough to get you below the low/normal range.


Best of luck to you!

Yes true, and the morning is the best time to test your levels as that is when they are at their highest, however being a night shift worker, the morning is my evening. so i wont get any sleep before the test.

Trouble is if my levels are normal within the normal level, going on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) may not be such a good idea. Not sure what level they would administer, but im sure they wouldn't be to liberal with the dose.

I will post my results soon as i receive them....

Like i said, i would rather have a nice natural test level then have to go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of my life.

 

[Spunkey71]

Trouble is if my levels are normal within the normal level, going on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) may not be such a good idea. Not sure what level they would administer, but im sure they wouldn't be to liberal with the dose.

I will post my results soon as i receive them....

Like i said, i would rather have a nice natural test level then have to go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of my life.

Going on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) will shut down your natty production so it will be a decision you will have to make along with your doctor.

Best of Luck!

 

[WhiteDog]

Bloods taken today.
FSH
LH
PROLACTIN
E2
TESTOSTERONE
SHBG
INSULIN
GLUCOSE
CHOL/TG/LDL/HDL
TFT
UEC/LFT
PSA

If that means anything to anyone... Results will be in mid next week...

 

[DreDay187]

Bloods taken today.
FSH
LH
PROLACTIN
E2
TESTOSTERONE
SHBG
INSULIN
GLUCOSE
CHOL/TG/LDL/HDL
TFT
UEC/LFT
PSA

If that means anything to anyone... Results will be in mid next week...

That's a pretty comprehensive list. I understand you being a nightshift worker but testosterone production is highest upon waking not actual time of day so taking the test as soon as possible, whatever time you normally wake up, would be best. Best of luck brother

 

[WhiteDog]

That's a pretty comprehensive list. I understand you being a nightshift worker but testosterone production is highest upon waking not actual time of day so taking the test as soon as possible, whatever time you normally wake up, would be best. Best of luck brother

I pretty much completed my 12 hour shift, and headed straight down there to get the bloods taken. Then went home and got some sleep. Looking forward to getting the results.

 

[DreDay187]

I pretty much completed my 12 hour shift, and headed straight down there to get the bloods taken. Then went home and got some sleep. Looking forward to getting the results.

Lol that's pretty much the worst time to get it. No big deal though, it just will artificially lower results.

 

[WhiteDog]

Well i don't understand why they test you at your highest peak. The levels obviously do not stay at this level for the whole day. I believe hey should take some form of average, or look at the lowest levels. One might peak out in the morning, and they rapidly decline and level out. Its at this point one would think that they would be interested in measuring.