what to expect when your test is up?

[bitterdregs]

About to start 200mg every 5 days of test cyp with 1.5-2mg/week anastrazole, 1000iu/week Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). For cardio I spin 2x a week, swim 2x/week, and light jogging 3x per week I(using c25k app on my fone). I also lift weights for upper body 2x per week (
I don't do legs bc those are my genetic gift. simple isometrics and the cardio make them grow and I'm not looking to get bulky)

So without measuring, I'm proly very high bf- based on other threads maybe 35%? Very much an endomorphic look.

I've already seen great improvement in how I feel and look with 150mg/week test cyp and no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or ai.

So I suppose the question is what should I expect in terms of transforming my physique? I'm not looking to be a monster (though I'm sure this can get addicting), but I'd love to have the body on this 6'5" frame that it deserves. Am I fooling myself that with this much test I should see a great transformation? Certainly diet is a component, and I've cleaned that up and am considering 3j for the new year.

I see all the stacking threads, but I like the notion of test alone. anyone care to voice an opinion on this dose range and this cardio-heavy routine?

 

[Mr P]

starting test with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will increase your libido and your sperm count, you will make gains & you can get ripped with a low bodyfat by keeping a cardio routine but you must get your diet incheck, contact 3J like you said and he will get you going to a better look, btw taking test without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will raise your estro making you look bloated and will decrease your libido Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is a must on test,

good luck

 

[halfwit]

I think it really depends on how long your test levels were low and what your current body makeup is. I'm 6'7" so I completely understand where you're coming from with regards to wanting to fill out that large frame! Honestly, the first thing I noticed was bellyfat coming off MUCH easier as well as recovery times being much shorter. If you're at 35% bf and are going to hire 3J (I'm planning on hiring him myself come the next year), I honestly think you're in for a treat.

Definitely keep an eye on blood work as Mr P mentioned, but don't CRUSH your E2 levels - try to find a happy spot where you feel great and try to keep it there. I find that if I go too low, my joints ache and I get a little anxious. Other than that, welcome to the club!

 

[bitterdregs]

Thanks for the support guys. Interestingly, my gp freaked out when recent labs showed test near 1100. And my endo doesn't think water retention and bloating has anything to do with estrogen. UGH. even a simple google search shows that on any health related website.

So....drumroll.... I'm hoping IMT has my new goodies to me this week! Can't say I'm thrilled about additional injections, but I went with the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) autopen to make life easier. Todd has been more than patient with me and the myrad of questions I've hammered him with.

interestingly, last week I took off from my exercise routine to let me knees rest and be ready for the holiday catering rush. At my size, small changes are noticeable to me, and I kept thinking 'man, it looks like my middle is shirking and more solid'. Sure enough my weight continued to drop while keeping the leaner mass. So i'm really excited. Why the FK didn't I do this earlier????????

Initially I was going to start this and 3j at the same time, but being the analytical type I decided that I'd like to dial in my meds and then the diet. Proly doesn't make a lot of sense, but changing too many things @once doesn't allow me to evaluate which is the larger contributor. So killing most gluten and sugars from my diet has helped, tho also allowing myself to cheat a little has killed the bingeing.

I'll be gd dam'd if I'm going to be the fat guy anymore. Saturday I'm going to a local bod pod for bf eval. I took some recent pics (maybe a month after starting test w my endo) and when I have more info on bf% and actually get a week or two into the newer injections I'll start a tracking thread.

And to answer halfwit's question, 2 labs 4 month's apart from my endo were test levels of 240 and 210. they didn't do free test or estrogen

 

[halfwit]

Thanks for the support guys. Interestingly, my gp freaked out when recent labs showed test near 1100. And my endo doesn't think water retention and bloating has anything to do with estrogen. UGH. even a simple google search shows that on any health related website.

So....drumroll.... I'm hoping IMT has my new goodies to me this week! Can't say I'm thrilled about additional injections, but I went with the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) autopen to make life easier. Todd has been more than patient with me and the myrad of questions I've hammered him with.

interestingly, last week I took off from my exercise routine to let me knees rest and be ready for the holiday catering rush. At my size, small changes are noticeable to me, and I kept thinking 'man, it looks like my middle is shirking and more solid'. Sure enough my weight continued to drop while keeping the leaner mass. So i'm really excited. Why the FK didn't I do this earlier????????

Initially I was going to start this and 3j at the same time, but being the analytical type I decided that I'd like to dial in my meds and then the diet. Proly doesn't make a lot of sense, but changing too many things @once doesn't allow me to evaluate which is the larger contributor. So killing most gluten and sugars from my diet has helped, tho also allowing myself to cheat a little has killed the bingeing.

I'll be gd dam'd if I'm going to be the fat guy anymore. Saturday I'm going to a local bod pod for bf eval. I took some recent pics (maybe a month after starting test w my endo) and when I have more info on bf% and actually get a week or two into the newer injections I'll start a tracking thread.

And to answer halfwit's question, 2 labs 4 month's apart from my endo were test levels of 240 and 210. they didn't do free test or estrogen

Nice! Please keep us updated on your progress. Unfortunately it sounds like you have an "old school" endo that needs to go back and get some updates on his education. All too common in this area of medicine, but at least you're now in good hands.