What will give better gains with NPP

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If I run NPP at 750 mgs a week for 8 weeks will I get better gains than if I run it at 500mgs for 12 weeks? I hear 8 weeks is enough for a short ester cycle like NPP. Im not sure which will give better gains what do you guys think? Im running 850mgs of Test E a week and than I plan to add in the NPP at one of those two dosages. And then end the cycle with Tbol at 50mgs a day for 4 weeks.
 
lol I have proper pct laid out. And I am taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500 IU's a week. And I have a lot of arimadex for any gyno or estrogen issues.
 
Well since you called me a pussy now I have no choice but to run it for 20 weeks. Lol just since you wan't to be on testosterone replacement therapy doesn't mean I have to be.
 
man fear will hold you back in life. recovery is all in your head big brah. dont give the power to other shit take control of your body. the last time i ran npp i ran it for 6 months straight. i'm 32 now. where is my natty test? still off the charts.

for real though dawg i do believe in the power of the mind over a lot of other shit. my biceps wont grow. its okay bro its your genetics you cant help it. man fuck all that spit it aint in my genetics to blame other shit for me not being willing to do whatever it takes to get what i want. my motto is your body is exactly where you want it to be. i cant drop under 10% bodyfat. man you just aint committing yourself to truly doing what it takes. its hard for me to gain muscle. nigga please.

i cant recover from 20 weeks. fuck no you cant not with that attitude!
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^^^haha just because your a retard doesn't mean anyone else has to be. I know a guy who ran deca for 10 months and "got sick gains". now he wonders why he can have kids and pins the rest of his life
 
Last time I got my testosterone checked it was 413 ng/dl and I was 23 at the time of the test. And I had ran about 6 pro hormone cycles and 1 cycle of testosterone at 750mgs a week and winstrol at 25mgs a day. The winstrol was for one month. The whole cycle was about 3 months long. But just after doing the cycles I named and at 23 my natural testosterone was at 413ng/dl. I do believe the mind has power over a lot of things in life but when it comes to things like recovery from a steroid cycle I don't believe the mind is capable of changing that. I believed at the time when I was running all those cycles of pro hormones that I was recovering just fine I didn't even know what testosterone replacement meant back than. I thought I was fine. But after a while I started to notice my libido was not as high as it once was and that my gains in the gym were not as good as they use to be. And that I had to have a lot better diet to not get fat and to gain muscle. I personally have not made the decision if I want to go all out and try to compete at a high level and do what is necessary. But I do know for a fact that a cycle consisting of the most suppressive compound out there ran for 20 weeks is going to significantly effect the HPTA system and could possibly put some one on testosterone replacement for life.

Genetically some people can gain size some people cant or they have high bicep peaks and some don't and the same go's for steroids one guy can take 4 grams a week of steroids and not get side effects and than another person can take only 700mgs of steroids a week and get horrible side effects. It sounds like you have the ability to recover fast from steroid cycles.
 
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haha nah man i know what you saying i was just fuckin around. 6 month cycle on npp was real talk although the dose was higher for 2 months then lower for a couple then higher again.

i do bounce back strong from steroids i am sure better than many people but i also aint stupid i know the next cycle could be the one i dont recover from. whatever though im in my 30s and there are far worse things i can envision for myself than having to shoot up with a bit of t every few days for life.

regarding genetics they obviously a factor but i dont buy into them being the end all. you can train your body to do all kinds of crazy shit if you truly want it and give it 100%. most people dont. they find a reason to not go after what they want.
 
Mad- scientist said:
If I run NPP at 750 mgs a week for 8 weeks will I get better gains than if I run it at 500mgs for 12 weeks? I hear 8 weeks is enough for a short ester cycle like NPP. Im not sure which will give better gains what do you guys think? Im running 850mgs of Test E a week and than I plan to add in the NPP at one of those two dosages. And then end the cycle with Tbol at 50mgs a day for 4 weeks.
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I always run npp 16-20wks and recover with ease. Personally, I saw no significant difference running it at 700 than I did running it at 450mg. At 700mg alittle hard to fight off water weight did start to become an issue though. I now prefer 5wks @100mg of var over the tbol at the end of my cycle. Maintains/preserves muscle gains better imo.
Besides a competitive tren cycle....npp/test/var with a strict diet is the next best thing with little to no side affects.
I include npp in all my cycles. Love it, and its cheap as hell.
So 12@500 is what I'd do.
 
Yup, like everyone else said, longer is better. No matter how much gear you run, it still takes time to build muscle.
 
one and only champ said:
haha nah man i know what you saying i was just fuckin around. 6 month cycle on npp was real talk although the dose was higher for 2 months then lower for a couple then higher again.

i do bounce back strong from steroids i am sure better than many people but i also aint stupid i know the next cycle could be the one i dont recover from. whatever though im in my 30s and there are far worse things i can envision for myself than having to shoot up with a bit of t every few days for life.

regarding genetics they obviously a factor but i dont buy into them being the end all. you can train your body to do all kinds of crazy shit if you truly want it and give it 100%. most people dont. they find a reason to not go after what they want.
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I was starting to think you were just an asshole, but you are correct.

Most people will find a way to NOT do what it takes to hit their goals. They want the easy way out and will spend more time making excuses and procrastinating than it takes to just do the work.
 
one and only champ said:
man fear will hold you back in life. recovery is all in your head big brah. dont give the power to other shit take control of your body. the last time i ran npp i ran it for 6 months straight. i'm 32 now. where is my natty test? still off the charts.

for real though dawg i do believe in the power of the mind over a lot of other shit. my biceps wont grow. its okay bro its your genetics you cant help it. man fuck all that spit it aint in my genetics to blame other shit for me not being willing to do whatever it takes to get what i want. my motto is your body is exactly where you want it to be. i cant drop under 10% bodyfat. man you just aint committing yourself to truly doing what it takes. its hard for me to gain muscle. nigga please.

i cant recover from 20 weeks. fuck no you cant not with that attitude!
:soap:
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Wait, CT Fletcher... IS THAT YOU??! :spin:

MS: I'd run 12 weeks personally with the NPP. 8 weeks should have pretty good results, but that just feels so short to me for anything but an oral. :cool:
 
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