Whinny & HCG - 2 weeks before PCT

[Newguy22]

So this is my first cycle. - 200mg tren ethinate & 250 test cyp weekly. Ran it for 12 weeks. I just did my last shot.

For the next 2 weeks before PCT I am Thinking about running whinny (40mg/day) and HCG every 2 days (1000 for the first 2 shots and 500 after that.) I was also told to add 20mg nolva to this because the HCG. Then I am thinking stopping everything for 3 days before starting my PCT which will be 40mg nolva for first week and 20 mg for next 2 weeks.

Does this sound right? It is my first time and I am just going off my own research and what some people have told me...

Thanks!

 

[Milton]

you just ran a 12 week test cycle and your just NOW asking about pct? what are your stats, age, weight bf%, etc. ?

 

[Newguy22]

A bit late yes I should have had this pre planned... but I do have all the supplies at least.

I am 28.
Started cycle at 185lbs
Am 208lbs now
Height: 5'8
Bf%: not sure, can calculate in a couple hrs when I get home.

Anything else you need to know?

Thank you so much for helping me with this..

 

[Roush]

you ran test AND Tren for a first cycle !, dude if you did not get enough out of that then your not a good responder, see no point in adding in a 3rd compound like winny . Just do your PCT of clomid and nolva and be done with it this go around. and you should have been running HCG the duration of the cycle.

 

[Newguy22]

I got a lot out of the cycle. The whinny is just to run the 2 weeks before PCT. I read people do this because it fills that gap inbetween waiting the 2 weeks when u start PCT that way you loose less of your gains. Not true?

 

[Milton]

did you do any blood test before this first cycle of tren and test?

 

[Roush]

I got a lot out of the cycle. The whinny is just to run the 2 weeks before PCT. I read people do this because it fills that gap inbetween waiting the 2 weeks when u start PCT that way you loose less of your gains. Not true?

this is a common technique with fast acting low aromatizing compounds . but heck you don't need to add 'winny' to do this. you could of just ran tren ace or test prop , which would clear in a few days and allow you to run it almost right up to PCT.

 

[Newguy22]

I just have the winny on hand. Figured I could use it up.

 

[Newguy22]

No blood work. Is this somthing I should have done? If so I can do it next time. What do they need to check in my blood?

 

[Newguy22]

Also I read that doing a HCG blast before PCT helps you retain gains as well. Is this true?

 

[appleton111]

Also I read that doing a HCG blast before PCT helps you retain gains as well. Is this true?

at what dosage?

 

[Roush]

No blood work. Is this somthing I should have done? If so I can do it next time. What do they need to check in my blood?

are you joking ? steroids can fuck up everything in your blood . all your hormones, your cholesterol and lipid panel, your kidney function, your liver function and liver enzymes , your red blood cell count, your hematocrit/hemoglobin levels, etc etc..

blood work is a good idea just to find out how F'd up your health is now. if everything is good , then you survived this cycle and are ready to move on to the next one . if things are bad, then you need to address those negative health issues

 

[Roush]

Also I read that doing a HCG blast before PCT helps you retain gains as well. Is this true?

HCG can help you recover your natty test levels quicker ,, which in turn will help you keep from losing as much gains as you would otherwise. running it during your whole cycle is a better option , but yes you can blast it prior to PCT as well

 

[Teutonic]

23 pounds in 12 weeks. Good job. I do not know how u "look" but you should be able to retain 1/2 or 3/5th s by correcting diet and changing your lifting style which I also do not know about.

As you got the idea how serious augmenting your test and it s possible side effect s and long term alteration s to your body (esp ur HPTA ) I LL NOT JUMP ON THE GANG RAPE AND JUST TRY IN MY GRANTED LIMITED EXPERIENCE shed some light for you w respect to your body-this ain t beer and weed son.

When you augment ur testosterone w AAS ur HPTA shut s OFF. Ur either on steroids shutting your system down or your not. Only possible damage and side s increase ( and gain s yes but this is a cautionary tale ) out of proportion to dosage increases.
The most anabolic thing you can put in ur body is food. Then you got to train and then rest. U are what you eat. You are as big as you eat. Ur as cut as you want to be by what eat and when you eat it.. Once you dial in what makes you grow w relation to lifting, eating and recovery, steroid s just make it more productive. Much.
The basic rule here is GYCOGEN storage in your muscles to provide fuel for recovery etc by increasing the volume of storage capacity.

Blood work b4 during and after a cycle is the way u can see what s what with respect to internal organ s and gauge adjusting ur AAS or what needs to be added to stay as close to homeostasis as a cycle allows. Call it preventative maintenance. Replacing your timing belt before you crushed all the valve s in the head is cheap as compared to replacing the whole top 1/2 of your motor , savvy ?

HCG keep s ur balls "in the game " size wise ( by stimulating the lh fh follicle etc ) so that they come back on line quicker and hopefully completely as you restart your HPTA again hopefully, w-o any issue s.

That you ran test ( 110 octane gas) AND F K N TREN ( NITROUS ) WITH NO ISSUE S IS WONDERFUL FOR YOU BUT DON T GET COCKY OR RECKLESS AS THE GUY WHO STEERED YOU THIS WAY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND...AT LEAST NOT A REAL ONE.

See, with test alone the conversion to estro has varying degree s of side s to counter with anti estro drugs but dose and the individual usually dictate these needs. I m to old and tired to tell you all those potential sides and pitfalls..
Tren being a 19nor has a whole list of it s own potential sides coming at your body from another direction and fighting a war on 2 front s is not for the best usually. My German 1/2 is 0-2
Prolactin side s have OTHER drugs to administer should the shit hit the fan.

Winy blows I m o. It s for advanced people MOSTLY. I m so feeble and shriveled it kill s my joint s by drying the fluid s out of my connective tissue s and padding in the joints AND it skew s the shit out of your hdl/ldl ratio s too.
I m 53 so I know what I can do and can t do with respect to AAS with NO other meds, no mental issues ( yeah there s that too) do not want more size and my strength for a 215 pd old man is fine.


Please stick around and please run some q s by those who know ( I m over rated ) before you u run nitrous through a stock 350, OK Man ?

Happy New year