why am i losing weight?

[massman82]

Im am 31 years old, 6'2, 215. I am currently going into my 10th week on a 15 week cycle, and this is my 5th cycle. I gained 20 pounds from the start but now am seeing small decrease on the scale. My diet is only about 3500 calories maybe more and this is my what im taking.


week 1-5 test cyp 600mg ew
week 6-15 test cyp 1000mg ew
week 1-4 test prop 100mg eod
week 6-9 dbol 75mg ed
week 9-12 anadrol 50 mg ed
week 5-15 deca 600mg ew.

So i was doing well with gaining weight and strength, and since starting the anadrol iv lost 5 pounds but i think am gaining a bit more strength. Is this in my head or am i doing something wrong, thanks for any help.

 

[DreDay187]

Im am 31 years old, 6'2, 215. I am currently going into my 10th week on a 15 week cycle, and this is my 5th cycle. I gained 20 pounds from the start but now am seeing small decrease on the scale. My diet is only about 3500 calories maybe more and this is my what im taking.


week 1-5 test cyp 600mg ew
week 6-15 test cyp 1000mg ew
week 1-4 test prop 100mg eod
week 6-9 dbol 75mg ed
week 9-12 anadrol 50 mg ed
week 5-15 deca 600mg ew.

So i was doing well with gaining weight and strength, and since starting the anadrol iv lost 5 pounds but i think am gaining a bit more strength. Is this in my head or am i doing something wrong, thanks for any help.

I bet it's because you're diet has remained static while your mass has increased. With increase weight and LBM, you need a corresponding increase in caloric intake to support the new LBM. Otherwise the mass will be formed and lost after caloric expenditure passes caloric intake.

 

[DreDay187]

What's your diet like and have you increased calories since gaining the 20lbs or has it stayed the same. You also make no mention of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) so it could be that some of the mass is water weight and you're just sweating it out but my money is on the diet remaining static.

 

[Rumpy]

Wow, I don't know about the weight, other than the obvious, eat more, but I'm confused by your cycle. Front loading with prop I get, by why are you jumping up the test C at week 6? And WHY are you waiting until week 5 to start the deca, and then ending the deca at the same time as the test? That's also more orals than I would run.

I know your question is not about your cycle, but are you using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a PI? Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? What's your PCT plan and timing?

See what other people think but this looks like a bit of a mess to me.

 

[massman82]

using .5mg of liqiudex ed

 

[massman82]

I went up to 5000 calories ady, but the anadrol is restricting my appetite. am on liquidex .5mg eod

 

[Trenasaurus]

Im am 31 years old, 6'2, 215. I am currently going into my 10th week on a 15 week cycle, and this is my 5th cycle. I gained 20 pounds from the start but now am seeing small decrease on the scale. My diet is only about 3500 calories maybe more and this is my what im taking.




week 1-5 test cyp 600mg ew
week 6-15 test cyp 1000mg ew
week 1-4 test prop 100mg eod
week 6-9 dbol 75mg ed
week 9-12 anadrol 50 mg ed
week 5-15 deca 600mg ew.

So i was doing well with gaining weight and strength, and since starting the anadrol iv lost 5 pounds but i think am gaining a bit more strength. Is this in my head or am i doing something wrong, thanks for any help.

Smells like liver failure to me. Running A bombs right after a few weeks of D Bol is unnecessary, especially on a gram of test and a high dose of deca. Get bloodwork done and check liver enzymes.

 

[mikeross1981]

Wow, I don't know about the weight, other than the obvious, eat more, but I'm confused by your cycle. Front loading with prop I get, by why are you jumping up the test C at week 6? And WHY are you waiting until week 5 to start the deca, and then ending the deca at the same time as the test? That's also more orals than I would run.

I know your question is not about your cycle, but are you using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a PI? HCG? What's your PCT plan and timing?

See what other people think but this looks like a bit of a mess to me.

+1

 

[Nosy Parker]

I bet it's because you're diet has remained static while your mass has increased. With increase weight and LBM, you need a corresponding increase in caloric intake to support the new LBM. Otherwise the mass will be formed and lost after caloric expenditure passes caloric intake.

I am going to second this. When I crunch the numbers for your TDEE you are either just below or just above it depending on your bf and activity level. This isn't going to be too productive when you are trying to put on mass as your body literally will lack the nutrients to grow anymore. In this case the reduced adipose tissue effects from aas could become more pronounced in relation to your gains (since they have stopped). Thus leading to fat lose and muscle retention, and reduced overall weight.


I am also going second trenas and recommend keeping orals strictly limited to one compound run once per cycle for no more than 6 weeks.

Best,
Parker.

 

[DreDay187]

I went up to 5000 calories ady, but the anadrol is restricting my appetite. am on liquidex .5mg eod

It's very common for ppl to over estimate their calorie intake in a bulk and under estimate it on a cut. You need a food scale and go by exact serving sizes or calculate macros based on whatever serving size you use to be accurate. Get an app like myfitnesspal which you can scan bar codes to input macros, enter in custom meals, or look them up in the fly.

 

[massman82]

But i have no symptoms except for very dark urine which is kidney n not liver issues.

 

[DreDay187]

But i have no symptoms except for very dark urine which is kidney n not liver issues.

Symptoms in regards to what exactly? Liver problems with running 2 orals back to back like that? If that's what you're talking about symptoms aren't an accurate indicator of possible problems. Symptoms only happen when the problem is sever enough to cause them so it just might be a matter of time before symptoms show but by then damage has already been done. Have you gotten bloodwork and checked your liver enzyme values? It's safe to say they may not be where you want them to be

 

[danielbiker]

That's not a good sign for sure,bro.You better get a booldwork asap and see what's going on.Kidney problems is not something to take lightly.It's your body so you do what you want but trust me ,man nothing is more important than health.Your body is your temple so take good care of it.

But i have no symptoms except for very dark urine which is kidney n not liver issues.

 

[Nosy Parker]

But i have no symptoms except for very dark urine which is kidney n not liver issues.

Stop the cycle, then start your PCT. Not sure why you're ok with having any adverse side effects of that nature -_-....


As for your went to 5000 calories a day but your appetite was restricted. Who cares, if you need to eat more to grow then you eat more. If you're cutting and need to meet your macros and you're still hungry, you don't eat. It's simple, you have to love it or you're not going to succeed. You can't go about these things half assed. You should have your macros down to the gram and recalculate them every 5lbs of weight change.

Parker

 

[massman82]

thanx everybody

 

[Kazmir]

As for your went to 5000 calories a day but your appetite was restricted. Who cares, if you need to eat more to grow then you eat more. If you're cutting and need to meet your macros and you're still hungry, you don't eat. It's simple, you have to love it or you're not going to succeed. You can't go about these things half assed. You should have your macros down to the gram and recalculate them every 5lbs of weight change.

Parker

Force feeding for the win.. just keep washing it down with water...

 

[Nosy Parker]

Force feeding for the win.. just keep washing it down with water...

Haha I honestly don't even understand the notion of force feeding, I can't wait for my bulk to start in September so I can eat again... When I'm not cutting I'll polish off a Chipotle burrito (1100cals) then go home and start the grill and have a chicken breast sandwich, a sweet potato, coleslaw, and a smoothie for a snack XD. I loved being a swimmer because I could get away with eating near 10,000 calories a day during the season, but after I tore my labrum that was that....

I'm not really sure if I love bodybuilder because I love what I can do with my body and what I can accomplish, or because I love to eat XD.

Parker

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