My thoughts exactly..........RJ he has done his research and knows it all.........let him be
this was the kicker here...
Test E... i have enough for 250 mg, twice per week, for 10 days.
Winny and Anavar Combo ...
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this was the kicker here...
DADAWG
Community Veteran
not 1 person so far has mentioned that winnie and Anavar (var) are both 17 steroids and stress the liver , stacking to 17a steroids is a VERY bad idea. also i dont do mma but im guessing that your joints are very important and many many people have joint problems from running winnie.
stick with the standart test eth or cyp at 400-500 mg a week for 10-12 weeks for a 1st cycle.if you absolutely can stand it add the Anavar (var) but forget the winnie.
stick with the standart test eth or cyp at 400-500 mg a week for 10-12 weeks for a 1st cycle.if you absolutely can stand it add the Anavar (var) but forget the winnie.
Hi, I am 5'4 120lbs women and on my first cycle of ana Anavar (var) taking 10mg/day. I just started a week ago and am now starting to take decca 300 100ml/wk, and test ethenante 100ml once every two weeks. I don't want too much size, i am trying to just get CUT. I took Winstrol (winny) a few months back and loved the results! I was doing 50ml twice/wk. After about 2.5mo I started having too many side effects so I finished my cycle then stopped. I was told Anavar (var) is better as far as less side effects? Any advice on the dosage and what i'm taking for the RESULTS I want? Thanks
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
you do not need testosterone or deca...............stick with the Anavar (var) only.
5'4" 120lbs and you wanna cut not get bigger. And you decide to take Deca and Test. And a woman no less. Jesus.
Why is it so hard for people to understand steroids don't make you cut?
zeus104
New member
---you missed the entire point of my post brother. I didn't say you knew nothing about cutting. I said if you as knowledgeable as you thought, you would know that drugs don't make you cut... cardio and diet does.---
No... Hahah... i'm pretty sure you missed the point of MY post. I said that normally i won't use drugs and that i usually go balls out with my cardio. I've had a passion for lifting weights for yrs, but i've also been a martial artist for just as long. I honestly don't know ANY guys from the large gym that i go to, that could last for one session of cardio with me without throwing up. I'm not on here to make myself look good, or like im the man ... in fact i said i was a noob with steroids. I also said said to just assume that my training and diet was fine....which it is. If i wanted to be off topic for half of the posts in this thread then i wouldn't have posted that. I wanted info only on what i could take while im on a cutting cycle. It seems to me that both Anavar (var) and Winstrol (winny) are fine for cutting cycles. yes its a low amount, but since everyone is so concerned about the damage that stacking 17a steroids can do... this should be a good thing. Yes I AM going to be taking it with test now... like i stated a few posts ago.
this was the kicker here...
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Originally Posted by zeus104
Test E... i have enough for 250 mg, twice per week, for 10 days.
That was a typo... which i corrected just under that post. all you had to do was read it before commenting. Don't think it would have been too difficult for ya' there big fella
Haha... My bad... i came on here wanting to think for myself, and seemed set in my ways. Its impossible to get treated like anything other than a dummy as a new poster, unless your willing to say 'yes sir, thank you sir' to anyone who has over 1000 posts. It doesn't matter what i say, as soon as there is blood in the water ....
I just wanted some quick info guys... not spend the rest of the yr debating it.
Thanks for the help regardless.
Z
No... Hahah... i'm pretty sure you missed the point of MY post. I said that normally i won't use drugs and that i usually go balls out with my cardio. I've had a passion for lifting weights for yrs, but i've also been a martial artist for just as long. I honestly don't know ANY guys from the large gym that i go to, that could last for one session of cardio with me without throwing up. I'm not on here to make myself look good, or like im the man ... in fact i said i was a noob with steroids. I also said said to just assume that my training and diet was fine....which it is. If i wanted to be off topic for half of the posts in this thread then i wouldn't have posted that. I wanted info only on what i could take while im on a cutting cycle. It seems to me that both Anavar (var) and Winstrol (winny) are fine for cutting cycles. yes its a low amount, but since everyone is so concerned about the damage that stacking 17a steroids can do... this should be a good thing. Yes I AM going to be taking it with test now... like i stated a few posts ago.
this was the kicker here...
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeus104
Test E... i have enough for 250 mg, twice per week, for 10 days.
That was a typo... which i corrected just under that post. all you had to do was read it before commenting. Don't think it would have been too difficult for ya' there big fella
Haha... My bad... i came on here wanting to think for myself, and seemed set in my ways. Its impossible to get treated like anything other than a dummy as a new poster, unless your willing to say 'yes sir, thank you sir' to anyone who has over 1000 posts. It doesn't matter what i say, as soon as there is blood in the water ....
I just wanted some quick info guys... not spend the rest of the yr debating it.
Thanks for the help regardless.
Z
cjw2021
Pro Bodybuilder
Dude you don't even know what exogenous testosterone does in your body and you are going to run 2 advanced compounds? Not only this, but at 5 7 and 220 lbs or whatever you are I don't see why you'd even want test. Start with test and then add in the others if you think you are hot shit. You don't even have a post cycle therapy (pct) plan. You are just gonna shut yourself down and then get addicted and dependent on the shit. If you have enough energy to workout 6 days a week I would not even dabble in this art.
zeus104
New member
Really? You've got to be kidding me. Lol
I may be a new guy to this board, but apparently my shit is alot tighter than some of you guys .... Haha.... im enjoying the thought of all sorts of guest viewers and non posters reading this thread over the next while and seeing 'some' of you fellas' rant on and on about stuff that has no relevence to me. Where did i say that i had no post cycle therapy (pct) plan? i'm one hundred and fifty percent sure that i posted already that i'll be taking nolvadex for 4 weeks... as well as using HCG throughout, right up until the last 2 weeks of my Pct.
Ahh....i seem like a 'hot shit' do i? hahah... not the first time i've heard that. But if thats how i come accross to some, then i suppose that explains why a few ppl are picking apart my cycle...well aparently its not a real cycle...even for a first time user. lol I mean....i think my final plan that i've outlined is fairly sound for a first use. Sorry that it pisses some of you off that it didn't take me months to 'get it' Sorry dude.....im going with the test because once it was explained to me...it made sense, and i did further research to back up what Det= Oak was sayin'. I've been hitting my cardio fairly hard with my ECA stack for a cpl weeks already. I'm about 212 right now... thats too heavy for me. I'm looking to be down to 200 soon... and hopefully the Winstrol (winny) n Anavar (var) will give me a harder look than i would have otherwise. In the spring, i need to be down to 185 or so. Hopefully keeping a good bit of the muscle i put on this yr.
....... No, i didn't say i work out 6 days per week. I work out 5 days per week usually. i try for 3 on ... one off and that gives me plenty of time to recover if im not partying or out late gettin' my mack on with some chick.
Z
I may be a new guy to this board, but apparently my shit is alot tighter than some of you guys .... Haha.... im enjoying the thought of all sorts of guest viewers and non posters reading this thread over the next while and seeing 'some' of you fellas' rant on and on about stuff that has no relevence to me. Where did i say that i had no post cycle therapy (pct) plan? i'm one hundred and fifty percent sure that i posted already that i'll be taking nolvadex for 4 weeks... as well as using HCG throughout, right up until the last 2 weeks of my Pct.
Ahh....i seem like a 'hot shit' do i? hahah... not the first time i've heard that. But if thats how i come accross to some, then i suppose that explains why a few ppl are picking apart my cycle...well aparently its not a real cycle...even for a first time user. lol I mean....i think my final plan that i've outlined is fairly sound for a first use. Sorry that it pisses some of you off that it didn't take me months to 'get it' Sorry dude.....im going with the test because once it was explained to me...it made sense, and i did further research to back up what Det= Oak was sayin'. I've been hitting my cardio fairly hard with my ECA stack for a cpl weeks already. I'm about 212 right now... thats too heavy for me. I'm looking to be down to 200 soon... and hopefully the Winstrol (winny) n Anavar (var) will give me a harder look than i would have otherwise. In the spring, i need to be down to 185 or so. Hopefully keeping a good bit of the muscle i put on this yr.
....... No, i didn't say i work out 6 days per week. I work out 5 days per week usually. i try for 3 on ... one off and that gives me plenty of time to recover if im not partying or out late gettin' my mack on with some chick.
Z
I think you're taking all of this a bit personally. No ones trying to run you off. Yes, sometimes people get a little riled up too quickly (thats probably my fault. lol). Take what you need from the threads and move on. And again, I never said you don't know what you're doing. I said drugs don't 'cut you up'.
Either way, you have a plan. STick with it and hopefully it works for you. I didin't see where you were adding test as a definite, so thats good. I still think Winstrol (winny) AND Anavar (var) is stupid (as in taking two 17aa orals at any time, but it has/can be done), but Winstrol (winny) sucks in my opinion anyway. I would do just test and Anavar (var) , but again, this isn't my cycle.
And again, just in case you miss it, CARDIO and DIET is what cuts you up. If you have those on point, you will have no problem getting lean. The only reason you got shit about this is because you picked a shitty cycle. But you took Det's advice and now you're doing test. Which is better... not the best option, but like i always say, this may be perfect for you. Its all about personal experience.
Either way, you have a plan. STick with it and hopefully it works for you. I didin't see where you were adding test as a definite, so thats good. I still think Winstrol (winny) AND Anavar (var) is stupid (as in taking two 17aa orals at any time, but it has/can be done), but Winstrol (winny) sucks in my opinion anyway. I would do just test and Anavar (var) , but again, this isn't my cycle.
And again, just in case you miss it, CARDIO and DIET is what cuts you up.
If you have those on point, you will have no problem getting lean. The only reason you got shit about this is because you picked a shitty cycle. But you took Det's advice and now you're doing test. Which is better... not the best option, but like i always say, this may be perfect for you. Its all about personal experience.
RANE2001
New member
For what its worth my last cycle which was about a year or so ago was a test cyp and Winstrol (winny) cycle. Test for 12 weeks Winstrol (winny) for the last 4 weeks. And I will tell you that I will NEVER do Winstrol (winny) again. My joints made me feel like I was 100yrs old. But once again your mileage may vary. Good luck and keep us updated on your progress. Everyone here has tried to give you the best advise that they know.
BTW I was running 600mgs of Test and 350mgs of Winstrol (winny) per week.
BTW I was running 600mgs of Test and 350mgs of Winstrol (winny) per week.
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zeus104
New member
In hindsite ... if i could plan this all over again. I would have bought more ana Anavar (var) and left the Winstrol (winny). It was really the Anavar (var) that interested me, but i figured if i mixed the two i could save some dough, and get a nearly the same result. This may still work out fine so i'll try and see what the Winstrol (winny) does to my body. If i get anything serious for side effects... rest assured, i won't continue use. That said, my body is pretty resiliant and i've heard of lots of guys (yes, lots of mma guys lol) that absolutely love the stuff too.
If this works out fine. My next cycle will be end of the summer and i'll look to put more weight on with that one.
If this works out fine. My next cycle will be end of the summer and i'll look to put more weight on with that one.
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