10 Week Test-E and d-bol or 15 Week Test-E Cycle which one?

[novigod]

Hi guys,

Wanting to do a first "proper" injectable cycle and have the choice of two options so i was wondering what would offer the best gains in your opinion. My previous AAS experience is one anavar cycle at 100mg a day for 50 days this was on a cut.
I am 21 5'7 170lbs and have trained for three years diet is in check and am currently on a P/P/L routine in the gym six times a week.
What ever cycle i chose will run HCG and adex, then nolva for PCT debating adding clomid aswell but the sides put me off a bit.

The options I have are run 30mg dbol per day for 33 days and Test-e at 500mg for 10 weeks or just run Test-e for 15 weeks at 500mg, looking for whatever will provide the best gains in your opinion.

Any help and advice appreciated, thanks.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

I think the Dbol/Test cycle will yield better gains.

What about clomid worries you? Most sides with Clomid are form estrogen rebound, which can be controlled using a good AI.

 

[novigod]

I think the Dbol/Test cycle will yield better gains.

What about clomid worries you? Most sides with Clomid are form estrogen rebound, which can be controlled using a good AI.

Thanks for the quick response, I was worried about the potential side effects on site i have heard about. I was not sure which cycle would yeild better gains as I often see people saying Test e should be ran for at least 12 weeks.

 

[MickeyKnox]

For your first time i would run your test E at 12 wks. Leave the Dbol out until you experience how your body reacts to injecting supraphysical amounts of exogenous test.

Clomid issues (both physiological and physical) can usually be addressed by adjusting dosing amounts.

And don't worry about having 3ml or so left over in a vial. "Leftovers" are used it up in the following cycle(s).

Good luck.

 

[Nosy Parker]

The 10 week with d-bol kick start will most likely yield more total mass, however the 15 week test-e will likely yield higher quality mass (less fat gain).

Side notes:

What is the dosage of the d-bol you have access to? It is important that you split the dosage up during the day due to the short half-life of the drug.

I strongly recommend clomid as part of your PCT, both of the provided cycles are rather heavy and you can expect full shutdown. Just weigh your options, inadequate recovery and loss of gains, or whatever sides you experience from clomid...

GET A SHARPS BOX! As part of your first injectable cycle you should properly dispose of your sharps!


Best of luck,
Parker.

 

[novigod]

Thanks for the advice from you both, it seems like getting 3 vials and doing 12 weeks leaving some for another cycle may be the best for me.

@Nosy_Parker if i were to use dbol my source offers 10mgx50 so i could split the dose during the day like you said.

Also seems like it will be important to implement clomid as i want to recover fully and hopefully keep my hard earnt gains.

 

[Nosy Parker]

Thanks for the advice from you both, it seems like getting 3 vials and doing 12 weeks leaving some for another cycle may be the best for me.

@Nosy_Parker if i were to use dbol my source offers 10mgx50 so i could split the dose during the day like you said.

Also seems like it will be important to implement clomid as i want to recover fully and hopefully keep my hard earnt gains.

12 weeks seems to be a good length for most, tends to wrap up right around when gains slow.

As for the d-bol I would split it up into three dosages. One in the am, one before your workout, and the next where ever it best fits.

Glad to hear you will be adding the clomid. If the sides do act up, you can adjust the dosage, but also the dosage timing. Splitting the dosage up more throughout the day can help to reduce sides in some cases.

On a side note:
If you are running 500mg for 12 weeks then you will likely have three 10ml vials and have some left over in the third. In addition to the d-bol kickstart, you could frontload your test at 1000mg first injection.

Best,
Parker.

 

[novigod]

12 weeks seems to be a good length for most, tends to wrap up right around when gains slow.

As for the d-bol I would split it up into three dosages. One in the am, one before your workout, and the next where ever it best fits.

Glad to hear you will be adding the clomid. If the sides do act up, you can adjust the dosage, but also the dosage timing. Splitting the dosage up more throughout the day can help to reduce sides in some cases.

On a side note:
If you are running 500mg for 12 weeks then you will likely have three 10ml vials and have some left over in the third. In addition to the d-bol kickstart, you could frontload your test at 1000mg first injection.

Best,
Parker.

I had budgeted to either buy two vials and dbol or three vials and no dbol thats why i originally made the thread as i wondered what would be more beneficial on the budget, I wont be slacking on the PCT like i said and all that is included in my costs. Now leaning towards just buying three vials and no dbol although I could hold off a few more weeks and get some dbol too and do the 12 week cycle, I just dont want to do much on my first cycle as i would like to see how i react got a long time left to try other cycles.

 

[MustangDX]

I had budgeted to either buy two vials and dbol or three vials and no dbol thats why i originally made the thread as i wondered what would be more beneficial on the budget, I wont be slacking on the PCT like i said and all that is included in my costs. Now leaning towards just buying three vials and no dbol although I could hold off a few more weeks and get some dbol too and do the 12 week cycle, I just dont want to do much on my first cycle as i would like to see how i react got a long time left to try other cycles.

You should never run an AAS cycle if your on a budget. Also, your too young to be doing a cycle in the first place. You should be at least 25 years old but it sounds like your a typical early 20's d-bag kid that's not gonna listen anyways. Good luck...

 

[Nosy Parker]

You should never run an AAS cycle if your on a budget. Also, your too young to be doing a cycle in the first place. You should be at least 25 years old but it sounds like your a typical early 20's d-bag kid that's not gonna listen anyways. Good luck...

He has stated that he has already cycled in the past, in addition he has also made it apparent that he will have all that he needs on hand before the cycle starts. In stead of being a pompous asshole who apparently doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're", you could offer some useful insight -_-. Though, personally, I would not heed to one's advice who seemingly lacks basic grammar skills.


Parker.

 

[novigod]

You should never run an AAS cycle if your on a budget. Also, your too young to be doing a cycle in the first place. You should be at least 25 years old but it sounds like your a typical early 20's d-bag kid that's not gonna listen anyways. Good luck...

Thanks for the great input.

As I said this is what I had budgeted for from my ingoings and outgoings this month, so I was going to buy one of the two cycles listed. I could wait a few more weeks and get dbol too or another vial if necessary.
I am not slacking on any PCT protocols and trying to be as careful as possible I cam here for advice not abuse so please don't call me a typical early 20's d-bag.

 

[novigod]

Bump for any other opinions.

 

[MustangDX]

He has stated that he has already cycled in the past, in addition he has also made it apparent that he will have all that he needs on hand before the cycle starts. In stead of being a pompous asshole who apparently doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're", you could offer some useful insight -_-. Though, personally, I would not heed to one's advice who seemingly lacks basic grammar skills.


Parker.

"You're" actually gonna backup a 21 year old kid that wants to cycle because "he's already done a cycle in the past" and "he already has everything on hand"?... His first cycle was an Oral Only cycle you dumbass. That's one of the worst things you can do! It's fools like you that encourage these kids to cycle. He could permanently damage his HPTA because of you jackass.