16 Weeks cycle recovery after deca

[Fadelikedirk]

I'm 7 weeks into my cycle running:
Test E @ 600mg ew weeks 1-16
Deca @ 350mg ew weeks 1-12
Mast Prop @ 225mg ew weeks 7-12
then up to 300-350mg weeks 12-16
Adex @ .5 EOD
Hcg @ 250 iu x2 per week

Pct
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Hcg 1000 iu last 10 days of cycle

Getting good results so far, look better by far, gained about 15 lbs
Age:23 Ht:6'0 Bf%15 Weight:212

I've two previous cycles 16 week test and eq, at 500mg each and just test @ 500 alone. Maintained almost all of muscle I put on in first 2 cycles with 6 month gaps between but recovery of test atrophy was very slow from lack of pct, learned my lesson.

My main concern right now is recovering from deca. I understand the risk in using compounds like deca that shit you down. Just want to see if anyone has any advice on how to prevent problems coming off of it. I'm stopping its use 4 weeks before the test and mast in hopes this will help.
My pct look ok as well? Have seen some posts about proviron in pct to help with libido issues, anyone know about that?

 

[casanovaaa]

have you done bloodworks to check your levels, before and now during? any sides?

 

[scorob777]

That looks like a well designed cycle to me. I think stopping the deca 4 weeks early should solve any issues you might be worried about, plus at 350 mg/wk that's not that high of a dose so it won't take forever to bleed down.

PCT looks ok to me, but you didn't say how long to wait between last pin & start. With 600 test e bleeding down it will take a while, about 3 weeks gap would work ok. With the deca in the mix you might want to wait 4 weeks.

Look at the attached picture, this assumes 600 mg/wk Test E with 10 day half life, and 350 mg/wk deca with 14 day half life, deca stops 4 weeks before test, which stops week 6-1/2 on this graph. When you take your last shot combined test + deca blood level is 101. One week later 64, two weeks later 40, three weeks later 25, and four weeks later 16. For comparison 100 mg/wk test cyp with 12 day half life gives a level of 14 - I use this as a rough guess at what your body naturally makes.

Starting your PCT after 4 weeks when the level is about the same as your natural production, your HPTA will still be shut down but the clomid and nolva will kick it into gear making LH and FSH. Over the next four weeks on clomid and nolva the blood levels on this chart decrease down to 2.7, so exogenous test is almost all gone and hopefully your HPTA is kicked back into gear.

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[oldmusclemike]

-Welcome to the board. Glad you came in , there is much you need to learn. Yes you should be concerned as to recovery / restart mostly due to your age. You are much too young, you should know, but you have already pull the trigger on that so WTF. Wish you the best here on out.

All steroids shut you down not just Deca or some other specific compounds, they all do. In so much as Deca. (Nandrolone Deconate) it has / is one of the longest esters and will take several weeks to begin and stay in your system for a very long time causing sides to last longer then many other compounds. Read up on the Deca Profile as well as any other compound you think you might use.

Dosing Deca at 350mgs week is just above a therapeutic level for Deca. Don't know what you want from Deca at the low dose if you are looking more then for joint therapy. Most all the side effects are caused by your E2 level so blood work will be very important.

A note for you, is the weight gained of 15 lbs. in seven weeks is par for the course but as you should know it is mostly all water. Not a problem but I wonder your goal and need to gain anymore.

 

[Fadelikedirk]

-Welcome to the board. Glad you came in , there is much you need to learn. Yes you should be concerned as to recovery / restart mostly due to your age. You are much too young, you should know, but you have already pull the trigger on that so WTF. Wish you the best here on out.

All steroids shut you down not just Deca or some other specific compounds, they all do. In so much as Deca. (Nandrolone Deconate) it has / is one of the longest esters and will take several weeks to begin and stay in your system for a very long time causing sides to last longer then many other compounds. Read up on the Deca Profile as well as any other compound you think you might use.

Dosing Deca at 350mgs week is just above a therapeutic level for Deca. Don't know what you want from Deca at the low dose if you are looking more then for joint therapy. Most all the side effects are caused by your E2 level so blood work will be very important.

A note for you, is the weight gained of 15 lbs. in seven weeks is par for the course but as you should know it is mostly all water. Not a problem but I wonder your goal and need to gain anymore.

I understand the risk for starting AAS at my age. I'm at the point where the only thing I really enjoy is lifting and eating and hope I can't make something out of it eventually.

I am planning on getting blood work for the first time in 2 weeks which will be halfway through cycle. I will then get them regularly as i know it's important to make sure I'm healthy. What should I be looking for specifically when I get results back as I'm new to those numbers.

As for my goals I definitely want to put on size and get to 220 by the end of this. I chose deca for the benefits of joint therapy but as for dose I figured 350 would be a good start considering my age and since it's a new compound to me. Would you say a 400-450 would be better to get more bulk out of the cycle?