1st cutting cycle - pls need advice.

[Coolbrah]

Hey guys! Looking for some advice for my 1st cutting cycle - 2nd cycle ever.

Cycle history:
- 10 weeks 500mg test E, ran hcg throughout cycle and did 40/40/20/20 nolva for pct - no clomid.
Feel like i recovered great - felt like shit for about 2-3 days right before PCT as the test cleared the system, but now after pct i still feel pretty darn good.

current stats:
6'1 - 98kgs, around 12-13% BF.
Currently maintaining bodyweight at around 4000kcals a day.
Plan on cutting natty the first 4 weeks - hopefully get to about 10% BF, then starting cycle and really dial it in for further 4 weeks.

Goals for this cycle:
- Get shredded, down to about 6% (in 8-9 weeks) BUT also take advantage of the rebound after cutting. I have cut natty down to 7-8% twice before, but afterwards i seriously gain fat very fast.. i doubt its metabolism issues since i usually do more of a gradual increase in calories after a cut.

Cycle:
(Natty cut 4 weeks)

Weeks 1-10) 350Mgs Test E
Weeks 1-4) Winny 50mgs ED
Weeks 8-12) 100mgs MastP EOD up til PCT

PCT) 40/40/20/20 nolva - have some clomid this time - HCG 500-1000IU every week up until pct

So my cut will end after 4 weeks of test and Winny, and by that point ill be on 350mgs test E a week for about 3-4 weeks before adding in the mast. After my cut i will utilize the test and mast to take advantage of the anabolic rebound and hopefully not store as much fat as usual.

The reason i wont be running the mast right after Winny is because in going on vacation and EOD pins just arent a possibility. Im considering upping the test inbetween the winny and mast though! Thoughts?

Im looking for some advice from the vets, pleae chime in with critique - would you do things differently if you were me? Also, i feel very fortunate to have recovered from my first cycle quite well - how bad do you think shutdown would be after this cycle compared to 500mgs test e for 10 weeks?
Please let me know! You guys are awesome <3

 

[Roush]

350 mg of mast a week for only 4 weeks!? what do you expect to get out of that

So my cut will end after 4 weeks of test and Winny

so , your putting together a cut cycle, yet you only plan to cut for 4 weeks of that cycle ?

 

[oldmusclemike]

350 mg of mast a week for only 4 weeks!? what do you expect to get out of that

so , your putting together a cut cycle, yet you only plan to cut for 4 weeks of that cycle ?

This ^^^^. The compounds aren't magic pills. First I think you have it backwards with the Winstrol and Mast. But the whole thing is out of whack.

Man Winstrol is for finishing a cycle. No matter what you do as a cycle the Winstrol is to hold , harden and help the vascularity come out as you come down.

 

[oldmusclemike]

IF you really know these compounds and you know how to diet then here is what is would do.

I don't like short cycle less than 12 weeks. But if you do 10 well Ok.

WK 1-12 Test E or C 350- 400 mgs wk
Wk 1-8 Mast 100mg EOD
Wk 8-12 Winstrol 50 mg ED
If you diet correctly you should be keeping fullness with some good anabolic actions and where you get at 8 weeks the Winstrol can harden hold and bring out your cuts.

This is just an idea. If you want you can lower the test the last 3-4 weeks to 200mgs with the Winstrol the Winstrol should keep you from becoming flat.

 

[Coolbrah]

Thank you guys so much, much appriciated!

Yes i only plan to cut the first 4-5 weeks up until i go on vacation for 1 week...
When i return my goals will shift towards VERY lean gains, which is why i dont feel the need to run mast at higher dose - since im not using it to get absolutely peeled, but moreso to help me stay ripped while i up my calories and take advantage of my post cut rebound....

Will think about switching up the Wins and Mast..

Cycle now looks like:
1-10 - 350mg test E
1-4 - wins 50mg ED
6-12 (as soon as i return from vacation and up til PCT) Mast 100mg EOD

Better? I know it might not be optimal, but feel this is what best suites my goals...

 

[oldmusclemike]

******, it works, it***8217;s

I see you post this on too many threads. You seem to be interjection this on any thread that mentions Winstrol .It's getting old and out of place to begin with. Are you a rep and advertising?

 

[Milton]

Winstrol, I found ***8230;*******

Read the site rules.

 

[Harshkumar]

I like the cycle!
and a tip clenbuterol is great for redusing body fat and keeping muscle! 100mcg ED take it in the morning... start low 40mcg and upper the dose... use it 3-4weeks on, 3-4weeks off...

 

[Kiwi23]

There are a lot of issues I can see with your cycle, however the most important thing for me to point out is that "cycle theory" is bullshit. This is basically a "blast", then use a low dose of Testosterone, perhaps 150-200 per week (Test E, Test C, or Sust would be best) for 10-15 weeks while your blood parameters come back down, then decide if you would like to use again.

Secondly, Do you have an actual reason for wanting to use Winstrol? I only ask as this drug has a horrible effect on your blood, joints, and liver (temporarily, assuming you don't abuse it). Orals are basically for impatient individuals who don't care as much about their health long term.

Third, Why the fuck do you care about being 6%? Serious question (If you are competing, fair call but if not..... why?)

Fourth: This "I felt like shit 3 days after cycle" is psychological bullshit (Not trying to insult you but it is true). Test E takes SEVERAL WEEKS to reduce in the blood! Up to MONTHS.

Lastly, Hpta shutdown will occur regardless of what you use for the most part (although is partly genetic, some individuals seem to be about to produce small amounts even while using exogenous gear). If you care about shutdown, don't use gear or blast and cruise.

I am more then happy to be proven wrong by the vets as I am only 25, however most of the above is just the honest truth.