1st Cycle

[Anonyjim]

After months of researching AAS I think it's time to make the move.
I am a bit young.. 20 @ 6ft. 1

Starting in a month or so.. will post results..

Cycle:
Test E: Weeks 1-12 @ 400mgs (200mgs Monday and Thursday)
(Might ditch this?) D-bol: Weeks 1-4 @ 20mgs ED

post cycle therapy (pct): Two weeks after last Test E injection.
Weeks 14-18 Clomid @ 50mg ED
Weeks 14-16 Nolvadex @ 40mg ED
Weeks 16-18 Nolvadex @ 20mg ED

Any signs of Gyno Ill start 20mg ED until gone, will be taking Milk Thistle too.
If have to stop cycle for any reasons, will just start post cycle therapy (pct) two weeks after last injection.
Diet is in check, will be eating like a horse! (Will post diet later)
Training is in check, In 5 days a week. Been training serious for about a year.

Need some suggestions and advice.
Cheers.

 

[Anonyjim]

Bump.

 

[Anonyjim]

Bump again, changed cycle need advice other than 'too young'.

 

[balboa270]

Welcome and you will not get much help being twenty man

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

hey balboa that is a scary avi man....can you please put the gun down?

op man 20 is pretty dam young. there are alot of things that you can be messin up in your body. how many bodies do you get in a life???? Just one so dont destroy it yet. You have plenty of time to get yolked in a few years bro. Focus on training and diet

 

[D-Cal]

How much do you weigh jimmy

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

How much do you weigh jimmy

does it matter?

 

[D-Cal]

YA IT DOES got something to say about it

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

YA IT DOES got something to say about it

woo woo woo bro ez lol

Im just saying that if he is 20 and gear would be def the wrong way to go then why does his weight matter?

 

[D-Cal]

Because I want to see what kind of gains he's made so far WITHOUT GEAR. Better to give him the right info if he's going to do it anyway, the fuck is it to you

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

Because I want to see what kind of gains he's made so far WITHOUT GEAR. Better to give him the right info if he's going to do it anyway, the fuck is it to you

ok bro you go ahead and enable the kid to wreck his endocrine system and help him lead a lower quality of life in a decade...such as loss of libido, depression, low sperm count, low test levels and other problems that occur from injecting test into an already fluctuating system. Thats on you bro. Ive got alot of respect for guys on this site that actually try their best to give the best advice to the guys who need it and this guy needs it. Your just gonna help him without knowing the consequences yourself. This kid doesnt know the consequences and proly doesnt even really know aas. You do have time to actually be a good guy here man. Im not trying to attack you but rather educate you as I have been educated both by medical and personal experience stand points.

dont you find some moral dilema being an enabler?

Look at it this way, if your kid came up to you and said dad I am going to shoot heroine will you show me how? Are you gonna show him because he will do it anyway or are you gonna slap his ass silly?

you know the right answer.

 

[D-Cal]

Don't come at me with you're "you don't know what kind of damage it can have" bullshit. I know first fucking hand. So Don't be a kike.

Bump again, changed cycle need advice other than 'too young'.

He's obviously going to do it, so giving him the proper info would likely lessen his chance of fucking it up. What are you comparing banging down to roids for? I would obviously tell my kid to be sure to cook out the ink so he doesn't OD. Point I'm making by that is take your head out of your ass

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

wow bro wow

you are an ignorant sum bitch huh

you know first hand??? Then why in the world would you help him do the same thing to himself??? You are backing yourself in a hole here brotha. Your also displaying your lack of personal knowledge when it comes to aas. If you had a clue then you would know that even with the proper advice he would have a good chance of ending up with the symptoms I stated above. There is no way of doing aas PERFECTLY to avoid issues man. cmon now. I dont know why your getting so upset over this, AM I FLAMING YOU? No Im not. This is what happens when ignorance meets education.

and as for the analogy, well that is what it is...an analogy. Its about principle. Some have it and some obviously dont.

I will let the rest of the group (including balboa) rip your ass up now because Ive wasted enough time trying to help the op and you. Good night

 

[D-Cal]

Obviously there is no perfect way but you can LESSEN the chances of it, learn to read son. I NEVER had the PROPER ADVICE when I did it, if I had I would of had a better chance of doing it right and coming out on top. My advice to you is ditch the sleep idea and just string up, enough said.

 

[Anonyjim]

Do all these topics turn into a argument? haha
Anyway, when I started training I was 132lbs @ 6ft. 1 now after a year and a bit I weigh in at 176lbs. EXTREME ecto, eating is extreme.

I know about the side effects and the long term damage this can do, I only plan on doing this one cycle, build up and hopefully keep some of the gains and then continue naturally. Yes I am young but alot of my mates have done 'dbol only' at 18 which was stupid.

Was just wondering if the post cycle therapy (pct) is correct and will help me recover.

Better option for less sides and fuck ups is get rid of the D-bol and just use the Test?

 

[broseph11]

op, post cycle therapy (pct) looks good but why dont you wait on the cycle for a couple years? youve made great gains in a lil over a year why not keep it going? if your deadset on the test drop the dbol and save it for later.

whats the rush btw?

 

[Anonyjim]

I went from no muscle to finally having a build and now it seems growth has slowed right down.
Not really much rush but I have always wanted to get 'big' and to be honest cbf waiting years to achieve my goals when I have access to this.

Anyone else agree post cycle therapy (pct) is ok? and I will drop the D-bol and save for if I do decide to cycle again.

 

[broseph11]

sometimes things slow down. check diet, increase cals, change routine, so many things to do b4 aas. just sayin brother if i were you and gained 40 pounds in a year id wait

 

[D-Cal]

Post cycle is okay. You should wait though in all honesty but you're going to do what you're going to do. If gains are coming slower now it's more likely due to diet or lack of more than anything. My opinion is look up 3J's free diet advice on the forums, or even hire him, he can get you were you want to be, and then make your decision after you've done that. Anyway good luck on what ever you decide to do

 

[Anonyjim]

Cheers for the replies.

Like I said this wont happen for a few months etc and in that time I will suss my diet and training and see where I want to go. Just find it hard to say no to AAS when mates and other have such good results from them and they are same age/younger than me.

Just wanted to know if this cycle is all good and haven't overlooked anything. Thanks.