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Wade91

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Ok so long story short like an idiot a buddy at my gym wanted me to try hcg as a stand alone to try and get some extra umph says he's done it never had any sides I did 250 iu a total of 5 times mwf mw that's it after l I stopped because I felt bad like I was cheating..i did feel good on it but I was like ahh whatever following that a week later I had a stressful morning at work noticed groin pain went and got checked out and was told I had a varicocele....funny thing is I never noticed it before it's almost happened in a matter of hours and it fuckin hurt veins got hard swelled it went down after a few days but I was left with ugly veins in my testicle following that i felt like i crashed was hot all the time would come home from work and go right to sleep depressed anxiety and then boom couldn't get a hard on then boom libido slipped now I don't have a libido I can get hard with Porn or if I work at it but no where like before the wind could blow and I'd get hard. I have a varicolectomy scheduled for Aug 22 to see if it helps improve my testosterone because my tests came back weird I got lh, free test, total test,shbg, and estradiol, I'll give the exact numbers when I get home but I know these are pretty spot on if I remember

Shbg-38.8
Albumin-4.7
Prolactin-8.4
Lh-7.6
Estrodial-10
Tt-420-409 2 tests 3 months apart
Free test...this is where I get worried 5.5...
I'm getting another test in a week to test total t again free t and dhea.....urologist say my total t is ok but my free t is low and my shbg is high they don't wanna do any medication or restarts till after my varicocele surgery to see if that balances me out...im sorry guys I fucked up... what do I do does any of this make sense both urologist said hcg wouldn't do this and both want to try clomid after surgery one said maybe long term the other said for a few months to see if it restarts me idk anything about this stuff or what they are saying I'm afraid I'm gonna end up on trt young I dont want to be I used to get hard and fuck like a monster now I feel down regulated still dealing with stress and depression and anxiety because of it all and idk if it's because of low t or mental stress...im working on trying to feel better and my general doctors a shithead he said I'm fine in the normal range and won't look any further only this hormone urologist is willing to try stuff but only after surgery I just wanna get back to normal also regarding the varicocele both urologist said it doesn't impact testosterone but I've read slot online it can so I'm confused =(
 
hCG didn't cause any of this.

Get the surgery and see if it improves things
In the future don't starting injecting medications without understanding what they do first.

If the surgery doesn't correct things, an HPTA Restart would be the next course of action - as your doctors seem to be suggesting. It should involve hCG, Clomid and Nolvadex.

AI-Monotherapy might be another option.
 
Hcg,clomid,and nolvadex? Both uros said either hcg or clomid because they do the same thing none mentioned nolvadex but I also never asked about it. And I got it never again and what's SO monotherapy
 
Agreed, taking a low dose of HCG five times would NOT give you your issues. As stated above, have the surgery and do the restart, under the direction of your Doctor.
 
Ok it's aug 22 I'll report after....been d's stressing and lifting again and libido is coming back some still feel a little down regulated but I think once I get surgery I'll feel better because it will be over as well I'll still try a restart...should I do hcg and clomid stop hcg and continue clomid or just clomid nolva?
 
Wade91 said:
Ok it's aug 22 I'll report after....been d's stressing and lifting again and libido is coming back some still feel a little down regulated but I think once I get surgery I'll feel better because it will be over as well I'll still try a restart...should I do hcg and clomid stop hcg and continue clomid or just clomid nolva?
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You should have the surgery first and then reassess.
 
A typical restart begins with HCG, clomid, and tamoxifen. HCG is tapered off, and continues with Clomid/Tamoxifen. There are many variations of this though. As stated above, first have your surgery, then reassess.
 
I'm going to get surgery Aug 22 microscopic I got a great surgeon I've been reading alit Nd I see stress and other factors can contribute to wrecking your hormones so I'm gonna keep working out and spending time with friends eating really clean high carb and protein and fat but balanced get the surgery wait 2 months then check levels and proceed with a restart if needed....if I feel better in general I won't bother with a restart
 
Also curious what seems to work better for monotherapy hcg or a serm and which serm the only ones I know of are clomid nolva and Tamo do they all work the same why 3 different kinds? And i hear hcg shuts you down if long term wouldn't that be bad and wouldn't a serm shut you down because it increases test? And wouldn't both treatments lead to long term desensitization....my doctor did say after I attempted a restart if I went on mono therapy I would be cycling these treatments...any input guys would be cool
 
I thought you meant HCG mono therapy, I don't believe in Clomid mono therapy. Ive never seen a single long term successful case in 9 years.
 
Ok so it's just to restart your production then....and hcg mono have you seen any success with that? Im really just hoping my varicocele surgery helps me out just curious would someone feel a difference between 400+ natural test to 500+? Im starting to think i just killed my libido mentally and idk how to fix that like if i had a girl yeah id get it done and it feel good but i used to just get horney out of nowhere now I dont...i don't get it lol so weird. Also one more thing doesn't hcg shut you down the same as testosterone?
 
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