2nd Cycle Advice

[boostjavy]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum and would like some opinions about my second cycle. My first cycle consisted of Test E for 12 weeks with Clomid and Nolva as PCT. That cycle went well and gained a good 15 pounds (6 months ago). I had no gyno issues nor did I have problems with my balls. I am now ready for my second cycle. After being a member of the forum for two weeks now, I set this cycle up with the information I have learned. I know it’s not perfect and would like some advice. Yes, I know I am still young, but it is what it is and it’s too late to turn back now after I already did a cycle and saw the results.

Age- 22
Weight- 185
Height- 5’8
Body fat- 18 %
Years of training- 2 ½ on/off

Start Cycle: August 1, 2011

Days 1-35(5 weeks): D-Bol @ 40mg/day

Weeks 1-10: Test400 @ 1mL/400mg a week (Injection Days will be 0.5mL Sundays and 0.5mL on Wednesdays)

Weeks 1-10: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500iu’s a week. (250iu’s Monday and 250iu’s Thursday). Let me know to start at week 1 or week 4.

Weeks 1-10: Aromasin ( eod at 12.5mg)

Weeks 11&12: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast. 500iu's every day for the 10 days leading up to 4 days before SERM treatment.

Week 13-16: PCT- Nolva 20/20/20/20, Clomid 50/50/50/50


The reason why I am starting on August 1 is because I am getting my body adapted to eating like a horse again and getting up at 5am to go to the gym (I work all day and go to school at night). I want to make sure when that date comes, my body is ready.

I have some questions that I will like to clear up first.
1. The vial of Test 400 I have is for 10ML 400mg/ml. Does this mean that if a fill the syringe to ½ ml it equals to 200mg?

2. Also, the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I have came in 10,000iu’s. I was reading and found that if I add 10mL of Bac water to 10,000iu’s, 1 cc would then equal to 1,000iu’s. If I now fill the syringe to 0.25cc, would it be 250ius ?


* Depending on how many weeks I can get out of the 10ML Test 400, I will then change the dosage to 250mg a week.

Thanks guys in advance for your help

 

[justhav2p]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum and would like some opinions about my second cycle. My first cycle consisted of Test E for 12 weeks with Clomid and Nolva as PCT. That cycle went well and gained a good 15 pounds (6 months ago). I had no gyno issues nor did I have problems with my balls. I am now ready for my second cycle. After being a member of the forum for two weeks now, I set this cycle up with the information I have learned. I know it’s not perfect and would like some advice. Yes, I know I am still young, but it is what it is and it’s too late to turn back now after I already did a cycle and saw the results.

Age- 22
Weight- 185
Height- 5’8
Body fat- 18 %Years of training- 2 ½ on/off

Start Cycle: August 1, 2011

Days 1-35(5 weeks): D-Bol @ 40mg/day

Weeks 1-10: Test400 @ 1mL/400mg a week (Injection Days will be 0.5mL Sundays and 0.5mL on Wednesdays)

Weeks 1-10: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500iu’s a week. (250iu’s Monday and 250iu’s Thursday). Let me know to start at week 1 or week 4. personal preference. I would start on week 1 if you kickstart with dbol

Weeks 1-10: Aromasin ( eod at 12.5mg)

Weeks 11&12: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast. 500iu's every day for the 10 days leading up to 4 days before SERM treatment.

Week 13-16: PCT- Nolva 20/20/20/20, Clomid 50/50/50/50


The reason why I am starting on August 1 is because I am getting my body adapted to eating like a horse again and getting up at 5am to go to the gym (I work all day and go to school at night). I want to make sure when that date comes, my body is ready.

I have some questions that I will like to clear up first.
1. The vial of Test 400 I have is for 10ML 400mg/ml. Does this mean that if a fill the syringe to ½ ml it equals to 200mg? yes

2. Also, the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I have came in 10,000iu’s. I was reading and found that if I add 10mL of Bac water to 10,000iu’s, 1 cc would then equal to 1,000iu’s. If I now fill the syringe to 0.25cc, would it be 250ius ? if you can do simple math your correct


* Depending on how many weeks I can get out of the 10ML Test 400, I will then change the dosage to 250mg a week. get an extra vial to start at 250

Thanks guys in advance for your help

Your still 22, you get your bloodwork done yet after last cycle to make sure your body is OK>?>>???

Your body fat is still a tad high for your height and weight.

That meaning you should get your body fat down and get some muscle you could easily do without steroids. You have not been working out long enough and hard enough to have been able to see the natural results you could easily gain.

Your wasting gear and money with risks your putting on your body.

If you liked your gains from your first cycle, you might as well scrap test 400 and go back to the test e

 

[boostjavy]

Your still 22, you get your bloodwork done yet after last cycle to make sure your body is OK>?>>???

Your body fat is still a tad high for your height and weight.

That meaning you should get your body fat down and get some muscle you could easily do without steroids. You have not been working out long enough and hard enough to have been able to see the natural results you could easily gain.

Your wasting gear and money with risks your putting on your body.

If you liked your gains from your first cycle, you might as well scrap test 400 and go back to the test e

Yes, i had blood work done. Doc said i had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and he said I was dehydrated. My last cycle was 6 months ago i am sure there all back to normal after i did what the Doc told me.

I have been doing intensive cardio and working out hard for the last two weeks. I am sure that by the time August comes, my BF would drop a bit.

Reason for test400 is because ive seen the results personally and they are great. Yes i know it hurts, but if i man up, diet correctly, workout hard, i believe i wont be wasting gear nor my time and body.

Thanks for clearing up the questions I had. Its my first time taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so i wanted to make sure i understood the simple math.

 

[boostjavy]

I was planning on splitting the Dbol dose up 20mg in the morning an hour before my workout then 20mg in the afternoon. Is this a good idea since the half life of dbol is around 4 hours ?

Would like some advice from vets.

 

[KaiserSose]

I would only go 4 weeks with the dbol its a strong oral, and yes split up the dose throughout the day.

 

[KaiserSose]

What was your test dosage on your first cycle?

 

[boostjavy]

I would only go 4 weeks with the dbol its a strong oral, and yes split up the dose throughout the day.

Thanks Kaiser for your advice.

I have read that dbol is a strong oral. Depending how i feel, i will cut one week off dbol form the cycle.

 

[boostjavy]

What was your test dosage on your first cycle?

My test dosage was for 500 mgs a week and i ran it for 12 weeks.

 

[KaiserSose]

I am wondering why you are running a lower dose this time around

 

[boostjavy]

I am wondering why you are running a lower dose this time around

I am running this dose only because i can only get my hands to one 10ML vial. If i take 500 mg a week, i dont think it will last no longer than 8 weeks.

Correct me if i am wrong on this, i am still a newbie.

 

[KaiserSose]

I see, well not saying it wont work but better to have more and make the most of your cycle, 400mg a week will give some gains, also I like to run minimum 12 Weeks for a long ester, T400 only has a very small amount of prop its basically all cyp and e, better eat like a mofo.!!

 

[boostjavy]

I see, well not saying it wont work but better to have more and make the most of your cycle, 400mg a week will give some gains, also I like to run minimum 12 Weeks for a long ester, T400 only has a very small amount of prop its basically all cyp and e, better eat like a mofo.!!

Thanks for the heads-up Kaider, ill make sure too keep my diet on check.

 

[brooklyn002]

im a super noob with questions
whats dbol and hgc..and did u buy from uncle z?

 

[boostjavy]

im a super noob with questions
whats dbol and hgc..and did u buy from uncle z?

I wish i can answer those questions for you but there is just way too much information about those two supplements you must know before you even touch gear. Just search the site, you will learn a lot.

No, i didnt buy from Z but, there are plenty of happy users with him.

 

[brooklyn002]

isnt nolva and clomid enough?

 

[boostjavy]

isnt nolva and clomid enough?

Dont understand what your trying to ask. Nolva and Clomid are the only two thing i have for PCT.

If your talking about the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before post cycle therapy (pct), thats just to speed up the recovery of your natty tissues in your balls.

 

[boostjavy]

Any other thoughts ? any vets have anything to say ?

I keep doing research and find that i should do minimum of 500mg a week. If i do, ill cut my cycle to 8 weeks if i am not mistaken.

Is there a big difference from running 400mg a week to taking 500mg a week of test400 ?

 

[KaiserSose]

You have to understand that long esters take a while to show results 5 weeks isn't unusual ..so the different between 400 and 500. Plus not going 12 weeks will make a difference..a guy. Running your same cycle for 12 weeks @ 500 will have way better results

 

[boostjavy]

Thanks Kaiser. If i cant get my hands on another vial of test400, would you recommend me taking 500mg a week for 8 weeks (which i sure you dont recommend) or 400mg a week for 10 weeks ?

I cant seem to find another source with the test400 gear.

 

[KaiserSose]

I would do 400 for 10 ,, if you eat your ass off drink plenty of water,,you will see results, , besides its your first cycle so 400 is fine, ,good luck