2nd cycle info to keep gains.

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First cycle went like this, 30mg of Anavar twice a day for 6 weeks no AI's. Second 6 weeks same dosage and found out it'll be better to stack Test Enanthate for better results. Only did Test E for 4 weeks, I know! Not long enough and still no AI's. Started feeling sensitivity around my nipples and stopped. Gained 8lbs of lean muscle and scale started to drop just after a couple of weeks. Only did Nolvadex for pct no clomid. I've now done my research and ready for my second cycle. Its been 5 weeks now and I plan on running the same cycle. Anavar @ 60mg a day & Test E @ 300mg twice a week with aramosin and cycle assist a day. Would this be considered a good stack to run & would it help keep my sensitivity down and keep gains? Anavar cycle 8 weeks. Test E cycle 16 weeks. Then pct with nolvadex & clomid. Current stats: 181.2lbs 40yrs of age. 15% bf. Body type Endomorph. Macros: 125gF 260gP 50gC.
 
Let's call it what it is. This is your first cycle. Males should never run an oral-only cycle.

Since this is your first cycle it should be just Test. Drop the Anavar.

Read the link below in my signature then come back and fire away with your questions. Reading that thread will help us all have a conversation.
 
Let's call it what it is. This is your first cycle. Males should never run an oral-only cycle.

Since this is your first cycle it should be just Test. Drop the Anavar.

Read the link below in my signature then come back and fire away with your questions. Reading that thread will help us all have a conversation.

Gotcha! Already purchased the Var so screwed up there. Read your link and very informative. I need some AI's to start my first cycle asap. Any sites you recommend where I can purchase the AI's? What do you recommend me running during cycle beside the AI's? Thanks!
 
Gotcha! Already purchased the Var so screwed up there. Read your link and very informative. I need some AI's to start my first cycle asap. Any sites you recommend where I can purchase the AI's? What do you recommend me running during cycle beside the AI's? Thanks!

RUI for Arimidex. You can get your PCT there too.

First cycle, as you read in the sticky is comprised of just: Test, hCG, AI, Clomid and Nolva. Keep Ralox on hand in case of gyno. I like to pick up some antibiotics in case of a bad injection too.
 
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RUI for Arimidex. You can get your PCT their too.

First cycle, as you read in the sticky is comprised of just: Test, hCG, AI, Clomid and Nolva. Keep Ralox on hand in case of gyno. I like to pick up some antibiotics in case of a bad injection too.

Thank you sir! Two thumbs up!!!!
 
you have to actually make gains to keep them.. most people who do a cycle with poor nutrition gain a ton of water thinking they have gained muscle and lose it all in or after pct when the estrogen drops


tron, look at his macros for christ sake!
 
you have to actually make gains to keep them.. most people who do a cycle with poor nutrition gain a ton of water thinking they have gained muscle and lose it all in or after pct when the estrogen drops


tron, look at his macros for christ sake!

It should keep his water retention low with just 50g carbs per day. :-)

I agree -- gonna have to up the calories if it muscle Gains he is after.
 
First cycle went like this, 30mg of Anavar twice a day for 6 weeks no AI's. Second 6 weeks same dosage and found out it'll be better to stack Test Enanthate for better results. Only did Test E for 4 weeks, I know! Not long enough and still no AI's. Started feeling sensitivity around my nipples and stopped. Gained 8lbs of lean muscle and scale started to drop just after a couple of weeks. Only did Nolvadex for pct no clomid. I've now done my research and ready for my second cycle. Its been 5 weeks now and I plan on running the same cycle. Anavar @ 60mg a day & Test E @ 300mg twice a week with aramosin and cycle assist a day. Would this be considered a good stack to run & would it help keep my sensitivity down and keep gains? Anavar cycle 8 weeks. Test E cycle 16 weeks. Then pct with nolvadex & clomid. Current stats: 181.2lbs 40yrs of age. 15% bf. Body type Endomorph. Macros: 125gF 260gP 50gC.

I'm pretty sure that fat g for g stores as BF asap before it is even used for energy. I never understood why people run high fat during bulks. So much better to just up carbs (complex ofc), will burn as energy before storage, while fat just goes right to storage within the hour. Keep ur cals high and clean, lower the fats, up the carbs, 200 protein is just fine. Will make the world diff and I'd also just do test only too. The benefit of doing this, is that u will know how ur body reacts the base of every steroid cycle in the future. I'm glad I ran test only first time instead of stacking it with bunch of stuff.
 
I'm pretty sure that fat g for g stores as BF asap before it is even used for energy. I never understood why people run high fat during bulks. So much better to just up carbs (complex ofc), will burn as energy before storage, while fat just goes right to storage within the hour. Keep ur cals high and clean, lower the fats, up the carbs, 200 protein is just fine. Will make the world diff and I'd also just do test only too. The benefit of doing this, is that u will know how ur body reacts the base of every steroid cycle in the future. I'm glad I ran test only first time instead of stacking it with bunch of stuff.

Mike: how do people lose body fat when running a high fat ketogenic diet? Just trying to learn. All this diet stuff isn't my forte.
 
Mike: how do people lose body fat when running a high fat ketogenic diet? Just trying to learn. All this diet stuff isn't my forte.

I don't know if ur trolling me asking that, but all u need is a general deficit to lose BF? Tons of diff ways to switch up ur macros. I think I ran the Keto diet back when I was around 140 lbs. (don't ask why, I was just experimenting), Basically took in less than 3g or so carbs per day and rest came straight from protein and fat sources. Hard to get use to for a week or so, but then it turns ur body into burning BF in a more efficient faster method than the normal just lower ur cals method. It also makes u appear much leaner too. Of course other guys say keep ur carbs up when cutting cause it's benefit is that carbs are muscle sparing in general, but doesn't lose bf as fast as keto.

Honestly though, I bulked up from 138 to 188 ( i stil have abs and clear cuts on my body, didn't use test till about 175 lbs or so for the extra boost), I always ran a 250ish protein, low as possible fats 20-25g that just stack up from general food, high carb like 500+. I work out a LOT for a LONG time, so carbs is always high for me. Complex best too, THe way I always ran it is more simple carbs (not talking sugar junk, but more like something like a bagel that has 1-3g sugar per 1 serving of it and I eat this in the morning when hungry asap, then rest of break fast complex carbs for slow digestion such as oats. I also hit up some simple carbs after work out, then run complex carbs till I sleep. Always adding in protein servings too, whey, egg whites, chicken.

I get prob most fats in my day from regular eggs, only do that during breakfast to help accutane better absorb.


Edit: the problem with running fat high during BULKS, is that ur only putting ON MORE MASS in general, ur not losing BF, and when u eat high dietary fat, it stores RIGHT to fat storage before it is used as energy even if u are hungry. It read a lot of studys on this before, otherwise I would not believe it too, but if u honestly just think about it, most ppl tell kids that just start out to go ham over the peanut butter and they do and eat tons of it, of course their cals is not SUPER high starting out, but they still like wtf gain so much BF, thats cause PB has tons of dietary fat. Carbs might hold water, but atleast it's fast removed compared to cutting bf forever..
 
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I'm pretty sure that fat g for g stores as BF asap before it is even used for energy. I never understood why people run high fat during bulks. So much better to just up carbs (complex ofc), will burn as energy before storage, while fat just goes right to storage within the hour. Keep ur cals high and clean, lower the fats, up the carbs, 200 protein is just fine. Will make the world diff and I'd also just do test only too. The benefit of doing this, is that u will know how ur body reacts the base of every steroid cycle in the future. I'm glad I ran test only first time instead of stacking it with bunch of stuff.

actually thats far from the truth mike...

mct fats are a perfect example of fats that get utilized for energy
 
actually thats far from the truth mike...

mct fats are a perfect example of fats that get utilized for energy

explain more. I read that dietary fats just store asap pretty much. Didn't know their was "some" expections
 
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