2nd cycle. Need input. 1000mg Test C

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Hey all, need your thoughts and experience. Ran my first cycle at 600mg per week test c as a starter. A hair higher than the recommended 500mg per week. Started at 170lbs ended at 182lbs. Went great, put on some good size and now looking at round 2. I was thinking of just upping the test to 1000mgs a week. Is that to simple or will that run just fine? Thoughts on adding dbol? If so, will running it at 50mg for 4 weeks be a strong start? And would i have to drop some of the test?

Goals: Bulk and strength
Current: 188lbs, 6' tall, and 18% body fat.

Week 1-14 500mg Test C twice a week
Week 16-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20
Week 16-18 HCG
Aromasin on stand by if needed.

Thoughts on adding dbol to this.
Thanks for your time! Rip me apart... starting NOW!
 
At 172 at your height you didn't need to cycle yet. First cycle 12lbs personally is a small gain. With that being said a couple tweeks to your diet should make a huge difference. Now I'm 6'1 240 and I don't even need to run 1000mg of test. You have a lot of room to grow without cycling. If you still want to run the same dose as last the and dial in your diet and you will grow a lot more than 12 lbs a cycle at your weight. Add clomid to your pct and run hcg during not in pct. You can add dbol for 4 weeks but I still wouldn't recommend 1000mg test.
 
A gram of test and u think you'll just have an ai if u need it? You need to research more info on cycles. Diet too. Gram of test is overkill. There is somebody here that was on 800mgs a week and paranoid as hell! Changing diet, training, even adding shit every week. All he did was hurt himself. Take it easy a lil bit...
 
Just curious did you use an AI for your first cycle? I'm guessing you didn't get bloodwork which you should have to see exactly how your body was handling exogenous test.

I would get bloods if I were you before/during/after, run the same dosage as last cycle, use an AI, and add D-bol to kickstart the cycle. Get your diet on track and you'll get huge gains.

BTW my first cycle was 250 sust/wk and i had fantastic results
 
I concur that a gram on your second cycle is not needed and you will get great results with 600 - 750 mgs with a dbol kickstart.
 
Thanks guys! Thats just what i needed. I'll be dropping the test amount and maybe add a bit of dbol as a kicker. I know i could have done better on my diet last time and have been working on it. Im not starting this cycle any time soon but getting things on stand by. Still maintaining a good diet and trying to learn more about nutrition. Ill be getting bloods done this next cycle as well. How much HCG should i run in cycle?
 
You need to get your BF down. You need an AI.
If you throw in Dbol with no AI, at your BF%, you may be displeased with your new rack.
I would work on a test only cycle and go for a recomp or slight cut. Look to end with your weight in the low 180's and body fat <13%.
 
smittiot said:
You need to get your BF down. You need an AI.
If you throw in Dbol with no AI, at your BF%, you may be displeased with your new rack.
I would work on a test only cycle and go for a recomp or slight cut. Look to end with your weight in the low 180's and body fat <13%.
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Thanks, i have an AI on hand. I was planning on dropping BF% before and during cycle. How often should i be taking my AI if im still around 14% at the start of cycle? ED, EOD?
 
Everyone is different. I take liquid adex at .25 E3D. Some need that much ED or more. Bloods about 5 weeks into cycle should help you figure it out. I like to keep my E2 in the middle range, too low is bad as is too high.
 
1000mg/wk is overkill in this situation - you don't have a lot of LBM since you're carrying that much fat @ 188lbs

As was mentioned you'd probably be happier with the results of a 500mg/wk test cycle with a 300-500 cal daily deficit to get into the lower double digits.

You'll definitely want an AI & bloodwork to confirm the dosage - if you run the test @ 500mg/wk I would start with 0.25mg arimidex EOD or 12.5mg aromasin ED and adjust accordingly.
 
snowpatrol123 said:
1000mg/wk is overkill in this situation - you don't have a lot of LBM since you're carrying that much fat @ 188lbs

As was mentioned you'd probably be happier with the results of a 500mg/wk test cycle with a 300-500 cal daily deficit to get into the lower double digits.

You'll definitely want an AI & bloodwork to confirm the dosage - if you run the test @ 500mg/wk I would start with 0.25mg arimidex EOD or 12.5mg aromasin ED and adjust accordingly.
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Thanks man. I just got my BF% checked. Im sitting at 15.2% Im not being 100% honest with you guys. I ran my first cycle and when it ended (182lbs) i pushed my self to 198lbs naturally and 11%-12% BF. Just good food and work. I got hit by a car and broke my back and clavicle. That was 6 month ago and trying to get back to that point to start my next cycle. After i got hit i lost a lot of what i worked for. Went down to 175lbs and just in the last 2 month have been able to get on my feet again and start lifting. Started light and now im squatting and dead lifting again at 188lbs and 15.2% BF. I just guessed at 18% cause i thought it was that bad. Im wanting to just set up for the next cycle. Got a settlement check and want to blow some of it on getting bigger than i was before that guy hit me. Im not starting a cycle now with these stats. I would like to run another round of test when im up to 195bs again and around 12% BF. Sounds like 1000mgs a week is way to much. Just never seen anyone on the forums run high test and wanted to know if is good or bad. Sounds like ill just be running another basic cycle of test.
 
I would personally run your AI through cycle. Drop the test to 500-600 a week and run 40mg dbol. Dbol is going to bloat you with a lot of water but the strength gains are what your aiming for with it. I don't like dbol, don't do enough for me but you still new you will enjoy it. Just remember man its a race to get big yes but at what cost. Take your time let the cycles do the work at normal starting doses and if it don't work its either bunk gear or diet. As for hcg I don't remember the dosage for cycle, iv personally never used it but if I'm not mistaken 500iu's a week is split into 2 injections should be right.
 
188lbs, 6' tall, and 18% body fat and you wanna run 1g of test for your second cycle? try eating and going to the gym. relying on gear aint gonna get you nowhere.
 
Hog928 said:
I would personally run your AI through cycle. Drop the test to 500-600 a week and run 40mg dbol. Dbol is going to bloat you with a lot of water but the strength gains are what your aiming for with it. I don't like dbol, don't do enough for me but you still new you will enjoy it. Just remember man its a race to get big yes but at what cost. Take your time let the cycles do the work at normal starting doses and if it don't work its either bunk gear or diet. As for hcg I don't remember the dosage for cycle, iv personally never used it but if I'm not mistaken 500iu's a week is split into 2 injections should be right.
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Thanks Hog. This is great. I'll make sure to run an AI through cycle. Its easy to get it in your head to just load up on anything to get big and not think about the effects. Very good point there, at what cost. I think ill be placing my order with my guy here soon and get just what you suggested. 600 a week test and 40mg dbol for 4 weeks. I still got a few month be for starting cycle so this sounds like it will fit me alot better for where my starting cycle goal is. Thanks guys.

Oh, i have read debates on whether to use Nolva or Clomid, you guys are saying both. Is that just to be extra safe or should that be the norm?
 
Yes run both for pct and if its gonna be a couple months before you run you have a lot of time to change your diet around. Read read read and experiment with your body because yours won't react the same. Up everything protein carbs fats and dial it in.
 
Thanks again Hog. Been putting together a good diet the last 2 weeks now but its a processes learning what else i can or cant add and when to eat what. Any way, its definitely being worked on. But always getting better.
 
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