3rd cycle advice please #tren

luv2xlr8

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Hi there all, I've been lifting for 4 years. Need help on customising 3rd cycle with tren. Looking to lean bulk. Question is does my 3rd cycle plan look good? How do I ensure testosterone level bounce back to baseline after PCT? How much hcg is sufficient? and how do I prevent acne? I got lots of them when I was on my 2nd cycle. Thankfully now they are recovering well after I started Accutane. All advice and constructive criticism are very much appreciated! Cheers!

Age - turning 27 in March
Height - 173cm
Weight - 165lbs, 75kg
BF% - 13.8%
Currently on 3000cal/ day


First oral only cycle in Jan 2015 - Dbol 40mg x 6 weeks, no PCT.

Second cycle in Jan 2016 - Dbol 40mg1- 4 weeks
Test E 500mg/week 1 - 12 weeks
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Planning 3rd cycle - Test E 500mg/week 12 wks
Tren E 300mg/week 10 wks
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Will keep AI on hand ( 0.25 aromasin ) in case of gyno.
 
Keeping an ai on hand is pointless and useless. You need to run it from the beginning. You think you would've learned that from the sides you got. An ai MANAGES estrogen on cycle. Estrogen will elevate when using compounds that aromatize like test and dbol. If you start using an ai when you see gyno symptoms, well it's too late. You'll need a serm like ralox to combat gyno symptoms. If your not using an ai, chances are all your weight gain would be all water. You'll piss it all out after cycle and look flat.

With that said, tren e is absolutely not recommended for your first go with tren. It takes awhile to kick in and if you get horrible sides, which a lot of guys do, it takes awhile to clear out. If I were you, I would read the beginner cycle stickys. You don't know the proper ways to run a cycle. You need to learn about bloodwork, how to use an ai and the importance of using one, what is hcg and how to use it, and how to do a pct. After reading through the stickys, come back with any questions you have.
 
why are you jumping on tren so quickly?

first use deca.. wait on tren till your 5th cycle at least
 
There is NO ENSURING your natty test levels will return to normal. Ecspecially if you run tren. Crazy in my opinion. Tren is not necessary for you. Rather super overkill.
 
oh you want insurance? ok send me your gear in the mail right now. i'll ensure it for you so good that youll never have another zit face ok baby?

lol first off, nothing is fucking ensured in this side of our lives we chose to develop. take more showers, scrub your body more use better shampoo, wash your face, etc. but first remember what you are doing to your body next time you complain about a pimple.

second, step away from the tren... ESPECIALLY TREN E. man if you've heard horror stories from tren, and that shit happens to you, if you're on tren e you gotta live with that for another 2 weeks bro. but if you took tren ace and you decide you want out, you just stop pinning and you're good within a few days.

idk about you guys but tren really does a toll on my mind after week 4, maybe i'll be lucky to make it to week 6. and to think when i was barely 19 i ran that shit @ 700mg a week all summer long. no wonder i went crazy in august.

anyway bro, there are much more EFFICIENT bulking compounds out there for you that come with far less sides and are far less harsh on your body. why dont you try 350 test and 350 deca and 50mg of anadrol? i'm not even big on oral AAS but from my understanding of this shit that is one hell of a cycle. it may not sound like a lot but if you have good shit which is not hard to find these days, you'll be good. less is more.

oh and by the way, where's the caber or bromo for your tren cycle? never run a 19-nor without a dopamine agonist.

go do some more reading and take care of yourself bro.
 
I get so tired of the ignorance and or uneducation of these guys say AI on hand...WTFF... So when you see your bitch tits getting bigger then you like you will plug it in...Then what.

Please educate yourself in Estrogen , progesterone and prolactin. Aromatization and ALL...ALL the side effects of high E2... oh that is the second form of Estrogen, there are 3.

YOu are going to be doing 500mgs of Test a week so you need preventative medicine, that's AI... some people not much for just 500 mgs but for me a good dose from day 1. read up

AND you plan on doing Tren ? well where is your Caber and or Cialis ?? Please start reading. you are bringing out my grouchy side...damn I need my Anti grouchy medicine plugged in before I read some of these posts...ha
 
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oral only cycle was your first??

Yes as stated, unless it does not count.

Keeping an ai on hand is pointless and useless. You need to run it from the beginning. You think you would've learned that from the sides you got. An ai MANAGES estrogen on cycle. Estrogen will elevate when using compounds that aromatize like test and dbol. If you start using an ai when you see gyno symptoms, well it's too late. You'll need a serm like ralox to combat gyno symptoms. If your not using an ai, chances are all your weight gain would be all water. You'll piss it all out after cycle and look flat.

With that said, tren e is absolutely not recommended for your first go with tren. It takes awhile to kick in and if you get horrible sides, which a lot of guys do, it takes awhile to clear out. If I were you, I would read the beginner cycle stickys. You don't know the proper ways to run a cycle. You need to learn about bloodwork, how to use an ai and the importance of using one, what is hcg and how to use it, and how to do a pct. After reading through the stickys, come back with any questions you have.

why are you jumping on tren so quickly?

first use deca.. wait on tren till your 5th cycle at least

There is NO ENSURING your natty test levels will return to normal. Ecspecially if you run tren. Crazy in my opinion. Tren is not necessary for you. Rather super overkill.

oh you want insurance? ok send me your gear in the mail right now. i'll ensure it for you so good that youll never have another zit face ok baby?

lol first off, nothing is fucking ensured in this side of our lives we chose to develop. take more showers, scrub your body more use better shampoo, wash your face, etc. but first remember what you are doing to your body next time you complain about a pimple.

second, step away from the tren... ESPECIALLY TREN E. man if you've heard horror stories from tren, and that shit happens to you, if you're on tren e you gotta live with that for another 2 weeks bro. but if you took tren ace and you decide you want out, you just stop pinning and you're good within a few days.

idk about you guys but tren really does a toll on my mind after week 4, maybe i'll be lucky to make it to week 6. and to think when i was barely 19 i ran that shit @ 700mg a week all summer long. no wonder i went crazy in august.

anyway bro, there are much more EFFICIENT bulking compounds out there for you that come with far less sides and are far less harsh on your body. why dont you try 350 test and 350 deca and 50mg of anadrol? i'm not even big on oral AAS but from my understanding of this shit that is one hell of a cycle. it may not sound like a lot but if you have good shit which is not hard to find these days, you'll be good. less is more.

oh and by the way, where's the caber or bromo for your tren cycle? never run a 19-nor without a dopamine agonist.

go do some more reading and take care of yourself bro.

Thanks for all the valuable advice guys!! In that case how about a Test-E + Deca cycle for lean bulk? If yes, what would be the recommended dosage? My last dbol cycle made me puffy, so I think I might skip that for the time being.
 
I get so tired of the ignorance and or uneducation of these guys say AI on hand...WTFF... So when you see your bitch tits getting bigger then you like you will plug it in...Then what.

Please educate yourself in Estrogen , progesterone and prolactin. Aromatization and ALL...ALL the side effects of high E2... oh that is the second form of Estrogen, there are 3.

YOu are going to be doing 500mgs of Test a week so you need preventative medicine, that's AI... some people not much for just 500 mgs but for me a good dose from day 1. read up

AND you plan on doing Test ? well where is your Caber and or Cialis ?? Please start reading. you are bringing out my grouchy side...damn I need my Anti grouchy medicine plugged in before I read some of these posts...ha

Well everyone's gotta start somewhere. I'll definitely do more reading in regards to what you mentioned but to there are so many confliciting insights on different threads so I guess I'm just a little confused. I'd really appreciate it if you could kindly point me to the right thread. Thanks in advance brah!
 
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