500mg test/200Deca on TRT

[Nightwalkeruk]

Hi All

I am new here but am looking for some advice.

I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) which consists of Nebido every 12 weeks, this has been a boost to my otherwise non existent sex drive but does seem to drop off to the point that im back to square one by week 7/8.

I started a cycle after a year of training 7 weeks ago consisting of 500 mg test e and 200 mg deca. I had some Arimidex on hand as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) which I started to take around week 3 as I felt a drop off in sex drive and erections plus I felt my nipples enlarging etc. While the gyno has gone my sex drive hasnt really increased since. I then did some more research and decided id try Proviron as well, started this two weeks ago.

I have been taking in the following order:
500mg test e - 2 x 250 sun - thurs
200mg deca - 2 x 100 as above same barrel
0.25 arimidex E3D since week 3
50mg proviron (sometimes increasing to 75) ED

While the proviron increased sex drive for the first week after starting, it has now tanked for over a week and is starting to get me down, ive also noticed my strength and some size gains have slowed noticeably, with me having zero energy in the gym and feeling drained

Just wondering if anyone could offer any advice on the situation, have I lowered my estrogen too much perhaps?

Thanks

 

[DADAWG]

welcome to ology

bloodwork is the only way to know for sure but either estrogen or prolactin/progesterone is probablly off .

 

[Nightwalkeruk]

Thanks DADAWG, hopefully be able to contribute instead of lurking in the shadows leaching info

I thought id get that reply but as im in the UK its a little harder getting bloods done. Even when i have them done for the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) I never get a full break down of whats what.

Can proviron tank your estrogen too? I mean taking it with the Arimidex might be too much for my body to handle, i know some people are very sensitive to AI's.

Whats the best protocol for prolactin/progesterone?

Cheers buddy

 

[DADAWG]

Thanks DADAWG, hopefully be able to contribute instead of lurking in the shadows leaching info

I thought id get that reply but as im in the UK its a little harder getting bloods done. Even when i have them done for the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) I never get a full break down of whats what.

Can proviron tank your estrogen too? I mean taking it with the Arimidex might be too much for my body to handle, i know some people are very sensitive to AI's.

Whats the best protocol for prolactin/progesterone?

Cheers buddy

at 200 its not likely that your having prolactin/progesteron issues UNLESS your supersensitive to them. proviron has not been proven as a anti estrogen but some of us feel it does act as one. i like proviron , i would stay on it and drop the arimidex imo.

 

[DADAWG]

ps also NOT a fan of nebido , its a great theory but i seriouslly doubt it provides stable blood levels for months on end.

 

[Nightwalkeruk]

Tell me about it, if im completely honest, I can feel the drop off by week 5/6 and by week 7/8 im rendered useless again. I am seriously contemplating supplementing with my own supply though obviously a lower dose to a cycle once I finish this cycle. Good idea?

Plus, im not 100% sure if post cycle therapy (pct) is required due to my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), I have read not but would be grateful for advice here.

Whats best to treat prolactin/progesterone?

Really appreciate your input here.

ps also NOT a fan of nebido , its a great theory but i seriouslly doubt it provides stable blood levels for months on end.

 

[DADAWG]

try dropping arimidex before treating prolactin , i really dont think thats your problem at 200 mg of deca a week. no post cycle therapy (pct) required for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) users. is nebido the standart testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol in your country , if not get off that shit lol.

 

[Nightwalkeruk]

It is unfortunately, I have tried to get onto something else but he seems unwilling to budge, I think ill try my own supplementing once off cycle.

At the most ive perhaps done 300mg deca in a week, I normally do .5 in the barrel but may have upped it to .75 on occasion, guessing that wouldn't make a difference really.

try dropping arimidex before treating prolactin , i really dont think thats your problem at 200 mg of deca a week. no post cycle therapy (pct) required for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) users. is nebido the standart testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol in your country , if not get off that shit lol.

 

[DADAWG]

It is unfortunately, I have tried to get onto something else but he seems unwilling to budge, I think ill try my own supplementing once off cycle.

At the most ive perhaps done 300mg deca in a week, I normally do .5 in the barrel but may have upped it to .75 on occasion, guessing that wouldn't make a difference really.

drop the adex for 4-6 weeks at least and see if there is a difference. it wont be a instant difference.