50mg Test EOD

[BZOERB]

I was wondering looking at Cashouts writeup awhile ago about doing 50mg of Test EOD to keep blood levels steady. What would the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose be? Would 50mg test and 250 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD be about right or too high on the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose? I like the idea of possibly being able to exclude the use of an AI.
Thanks Guys for any thoughts and input.

 

[dfeaton]

I would think you would use less than that. Maybe try 250 iu 2x/week. Not positive though so maybe more will chime in. B/c the more Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) you use the more chance you have of increasing your estrogen.

 

[BZOERB]

I'm not sure either my thoughts were since I have the following protocol of
200mg Test E5D
500 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2x week
2mg Aromatase inhibitor (AI)
That by breaking the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) up and doing 250iu EOD would be pretty much the same as 500iu 2x week

 

[BZOERB]

Ok after reading some more studies and such I've decided i'm going to lower the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose, so I will be doing the follow protocol.
50mg Test EOD
150 IU Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD

Giong to inject the the Test EOD with a 29 gauge 1/2 Insulin Needle into the Deltoid.

I'll do blood test after 4 weeks to see how i'm looking on this..

 

[Illtemper]

you using test prop for that?

 

[BZOERB]

Nope Cyp.

 

[jupiterak]

At 150mg/wk of test, you should be fine without the use of aromasin. But I recommend bloodwork in case of elevated estrogen. I'd still get it in case of bloating, everyone varies. Other than that, pinning yourself 3x a week gets to be pita.

 

[DJ77]

HCG increases your E2 and that's why I dropped Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from my protocol. Cashout only used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during his exit plan, he had also discounted it's use while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the same reason. Im not so sure you'll be able to get off your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while using both testC and HCG.

 

[cashout]

HCG increases your E2 and that's why I dropped Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from my protocol. Cashout only used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during his exit plan, he had also discounted it's use while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the same reason. Im not so sure you'll be able to get off your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while using both testC and HCG.

DJ is correct. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) was problematic for me. That along with 200mg single does shots of test cyp were the two most troublesome sources of estrogen.

Dropping Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for me was an option largely because I've already have two happy health children and the Mrs. and I do not want any more ever.

Once I dropped Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), it really helped me stabilize on a 2 day a week Aromatase inhibitor (AI) treatment as opposed to daily (yes - daily).

Then, breaking up my 200 mg shot into 2 or 3 times a week was the final step in my ability to eliminate an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) totally from my protocol.

 

[Acesfull3397]

any videos on how u would load the slim pins by anychance, interested in pinning more often but would rather use the slim pins like u would use. thanks

 

[Frustrated1]

any videos on how u would load the slim pins by anychance, interested in pinning more often but would rather use the slim pins like u would use. thanks

Search the threads in this forum. A lot of info on this.

 

[Beyoung]

Hmmm. According to my Doc the reason for doing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week was to stop ball shrinkage and to tell your body to keep producing it's own testosterone so natural production does not stop.

DJ is correct. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) was problematic for me. That along with 200mg single does shots of test cyp were the two most troublesome sources of estrogen.

Dropping Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for me was an option largely because I've already have two happy health children and the Mrs. and I do not want any more ever.

Once I dropped HCG, it really helped me stabilize on a 2 day a week Aromatase inhibitor (AI) treatment as opposed to daily (yes - daily).

Then, breaking up my 200 mg shot into 2 or 3 times a week was the final step in my ability to eliminate an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) totally from my protocol.

 

[Frustrated1]

Hmmm. According to my Doc the reason for doing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week was to stop ball shrinkage and to tell your body to keep producing it's own testosterone so natural production does not stop.

Your Doc is correct.

FYI, I've come to the conclusion that primary hypogonadal requires much less Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) than secondary hypogonadal. Actually I shouldn't say requires. I'm secondary, and am on quite a bit of HCG. My docs have up adjusted dosages and frequency 5 times. I'm probably at the peak of what is beneficial. I always feel better on more, and I personally don't convert it to E2. Not much anyways, because I'm also on a very low dosage of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and my E2 is at 25. Just thought that I would throw this out there, because everybody is different, but seems that there are 2 groups when it comes to HCG. Those that are primary and those that are secondary hypogonadal. If your secondary, try more Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) not less. Just my 2 cents.