A what would you do situation...

[Iron1234]

Alright in a difficult situation on deciding what to do with this cycle. I am going to be running a 9 week Prop/NPP Cycle well it planned to be a bulking cycle and it would end in time to regain normal function back to be safe to cut for a few months right as summer is beginning. Well certain things held be back from start this cycle 2 months ago like I originally planned and wont be able to start until Start of Feb. By That time frame I start cutting right at June which is kinda late for that beach body.

My questions to you guys is If I cut on npp/prop cycle am I wasting the cycle? Like can I gain muscle while cutting fat with this cycle? or Should I do the bulk and begin cutting in June or a third option bulk for half and cut for the latter half?

Appreciate any responses guys

 

[hunnster]

What is NPP?
Listen you can cut down with anything really. Some drugs are more preferable for cutting (tren for example) but it just boils down to diet and your exercise routine. I just pump up the reps, superset and all those things and add more cardio and eat super clean.

 

[hunnster]

Also, read up about intermittent fasting. It has helped a few guys I know to loose a lot of fat fast.

 

[Iron1234]

What is NPP?
Listen you can cut down with anything really. Some drugs are more preferable for cutting (tren for example) but it just boils down to diet and your exercise routine. I just pump up the reps, superset and all those things and add more cardio and eat super clean.

yes I know that u can cut on anything. That wasnt my question..im not trying to rely on the steroids to cut. Im trying to determine whether to cut or bulk on this cycle.

 

[justin h]

Alright in a difficult situation on deciding what to do with this cycle. I am going to be running a 9 week Prop/NPP Cycle well it planned to be a bulking cycle and it would end in time to regain normal function back to be safe to cut for a few months right as summer is beginning. Well certain things held be back from start this cycle 2 months ago like I originally planned and wont be able to start until Start of Feb. By That time frame I start cutting right at June which is kinda late for that beach body.

My questions to you guys is If I cut on npp/prop cycle am I wasting the cycle? Like can I gain muscle while cutting fat with this cycle? or Should I do the bulk and begin cutting in June or a third option bulk for half and cut for the latter half?

Appreciate any responses guys

Your kinda all over the place with your question..
Npp is really versatile..I've ran it 4x
Whats worked for me in the past is 16wks..
8wks bulking last 8wks (mid summer) leaning out
You HAVE to know ins and outs of dieting to get a successful bulk/cut cycle all in one, or your just gonna spin your wheels trying to figure it out
Ex...wks 1-8...600mg test/5-600mg npp..eat accordingly to add mass
wks 8-16....600mg test/3-450mg npp...eat accordingly to lean out/cut
You could also throw tbol in the beginning for mass/bulk OR var at the end for leaning out

 

[hunnster]

I would extend the cycle and bulk first and two or three months before summer start to cut down. I always prefer to use when cutting to preserve muscle mass
If you start in beginning of February than you finish your 9 week cycle in the beginning of April or there about.
Either delay the cycle until you can end it around the finish of your cutting season or bulk and cut right after (which I think would be stupid -losing straight away all the new muscle mass).

 

[Iron1234]

Your kinda all over the place with your question..
Npp is really versatile..I've ran it 4x
Whats worked for me in the past is 16wks..
8wks bulking last 8wks (mid summer) leaning out
You HAVE to know ins and outs of dieting to get a successful bulk/cut cycle all in one, or your just gonna spin your wheels trying to figure it out
Ex...wks 1-8...600mg test/5-600mg npp..eat accordingly to add mass
wks 8-16....600mg test/3-450mg npp...eat accordingly to lean out/cut
You could also throw tbol in the beginning for mass/bulk OR var at the end for leaning out

yes I do very well with cutting. Count macros very well. Bulks seem to get a bit out of hand in terms of fat gain but its no biggie. So according to what I currently have you would bulk for the first 4 weeks and cut for the last 4 is that my understanding?

Also glad to see yo got your rep power back im sure my 2 reps went along way=P

 

[tbonexl]

His post says week 1-8, then week 8-16.. I guess it 4 weeks lol

 

[justin h]

yes I do very well with cutting. Count macros very well. Bulks seem to get a bit out of hand in terms of fat gain but its no biggie. So according to what I currently have you would bulk for the first 4 weeks and cut for the last 4 is that my understanding?

Also glad to see yo got your rep power back im sure my 2 reps went along way=P

Yeah...admin made a mistake..
With only a 9week cycle..you'd be best to let npp run it course with test.
In other words..eat alittle cleaner/drop a few carbs keep protein intake as you always have. Incorporate.alittle more cardio. Test/npp is truly the one of the best "clean bulking" aas out their.
Don't try the half/half on this one..if you can get more I would.

 

[Norsegod]

I agree with Justin on this one. Extend the cycle then just run var at 80-100 for the last 7 or 8 weeks. That stack works well for both Justin and I. We are actually both running it now and getting great results. I'm getting leaner and bigger pretty rapidly. Although after injuring myself at work today...that may change. Lol

 

[Iron1234]

Yeah...admin made a mistake..
With only a 9week cycle..you'd be best to let npp run it course with test.
In other words..eat alittle cleaner/drop a few carbs keep protein intake as you always have. Incorporate.alittle more cardio. Test/npp is truly the one of the best "clean bulking" aas out their.
Don't try the half/half on this one..if you can get more I would.

I agree with Justin on this one. Extend the cycle then just run var at 80-100 for the last 7 or 8 weeks. That stack works well for both Justin and I. We are actually both running it now and getting great results. I'm getting leaner and bigger pretty rapidly. Although after injuring myself at work today...that may change. Lol

Very good going to extend to 18 weeks to cut for the last 9. 1st time cutting on cycle what is a decent range to help from going catabolic would 300mg of test a week work?

 

[soldier74]

Very good going to extend to 18 weeks to cut for the last 9. 1st time cutting on cycle what is a decent range to help from going catabolic would 300mg of test a week work?

It should, it worked for me. it was during an eca stack cycle when I ran test at 300mg/wk. Cut up didn't lose muscle

 

[Norsegod]

Var with a cutting agent does wonders for me

 

[Iron1234]

It should, it worked for me. it was during an eca stack cycle when I ran test at 300mg/wk. Cut up didn't lose muscle

was trying to determine on using var or ec stack. Ec stack has been good but var intrigues me.