AAS and long-term effects on sex drive?

[Ferrari360]

Has anyone ever heard of/experienced a decrease in libido (drive, desire, erection frequency, etc.), a year or more after finishing a cycle? Provided libido was normal over the course of time before these symptoms were noticed, is it possible for a previous Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) cycle to cause a dip in sexual drive later on in life, even if there has been no recent Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use?

 

[mags]

My Doc says that over time, our body's production of sex hormones faster diminishes when we use anabolics...Therefore when were older we are all burnt out....I think he has a tendecy to overstate any facts on abolics but he's cool....

 

[mags]

Go to a doc and get your blood levels checked make sure you tell them to check your test levels.........Better yet I would tell your doc you have low libido and you want your blood checked (That should cover you)...I personally tell my Doc what I do but not every Doc is cool....I first tell him "Off the record Doc" ..Right away he knows what I am about to say or ask and he has never put anything in records....A doctors job is to promote good health so if you are having any problems he is obligated to help you ....If he documents everything you tell him then thats another story and I would find a new Doc....

 

[roccodart440]

Has anyone ever heard of/experienced a decrease in libido (drive, desire, erection frequency, etc.), a year or more after finishing a cycle? Provided libido was normal over the course of time before these symptoms were noticed, is it possible for a previous Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) cycle to cause a dip in sexual drive later on in life, even if there has been no recent Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use?

In short yes. If for some reason your body doesn't completely recover for the cycloe then you would find yourself in the predicament you mentioned.

 

[Ferrari360]

Okay, but if sex drive has been normal for over a year following the cycle, wouldn't it be safe to assume that the body has recovered properly? And therefore, why would a previous cycle all of a sudden start to have negative effects on libido after such a long period of time? What can be done to help the decreased sex drive, and how long will these symptoms last?

 

[roccodart440]

Okay, but if sex drive has been normal for over a year following the cycle, wouldn't it be safe to assume that the body has recovered properly? And therefore, why would a previous cycle all of a sudden start to have negative effects on libido after such a long period of time? What can be done to help the decreased sex drive, and how long will these symptoms last?

Yes to your 1st question.

It probably wouldn't. To your 2nd question.

To help decreased sex drive you need to see what's cuasing it. For starters go to the doc and get your total testosterone, free testosterone and estradiol checked along with your choloesterol, lipids, liver and your BP. Also have you PSA checked.

Now in the mean time there are some things you can do A) look at porn and B) take aviagara/cialis.

I wouldn't take anything else until the bloodtests come back but there are lots of things you can try once you get those tests done.

 

[Ferrari360]

Yes to your 1st question.

It probably wouldn't. To your 2nd question.

To help decreased sex drive you need to see what's cuasing it. For starters go to the doc and get your total testosterone, free testosterone and estradiol checked along with your choloesterol, lipids, liver and your BP. Also have you PSA checked.

Now in the mean time there are some things you can do A) look at porn and B) take aviagara/cialis.

I wouldn't take anything else until the bloodtests come back but there are lots of things you can try once you get those tests done.

Thanks. But what are some of the things I can try once results come back? Even worse, what if my results show that I'm fine but I still have this problem?

 

[roccodart440]

Try testron-SX by nutraceutics.

Did you use nolva or clomid after your last cycle for PCT?

 

[mesomorph]

I am 50 now and been cycling since I was 43. I don't notice any problems, but then again I never go a year in between. I would seriously try taking ZMA regularly for a while if you intend to stay off, maybe even trib. Both are good for the libido, and will help keep you from loosing mass over the long haul at least.

I hope to be cycling for at least another 15 - 20 years myself, maybe never stop.

 

[Thoms]

I experienced a permanent drop in libido and interest in the opposite sex since cycling, even when I'm on. But perhaps I'm just getting old.

 

[Advanced]

My libido is almost gone even on cycles...
But im never off so thats my problem..

 

[Warmachine]

if you stay off for long amounts of time and still feel a low sex drive, do another hcg and nolva post cycle therapy (pct). it worked for me, i didt 1000iu 3 days a week for about 6 weeks. worked like a charm

 

[roccodart440]

if you stay off for long amounts of time and still feel a low sex drive, do another hcg and nolva post cycle therapy (pct). it worked for me, i didt 1000iu 3 days a week for about 6 weeks. worked like a charm

WHat exactly did you do for 6 weeks? post cycle therapy (pct) never invleves nolva and hcg at the same time. They work against eachother.

 

[Thoms]

What!? I always use nolva with my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). hcg is a possible cause for gyno.

 

[SteelSouth]

I think he means to say HCG is suppressive and should only be used while on and not during PCT.

 

[Stone]

But the suggested use might be helpful, as he's not suggesting this as a standard post cycle therapy (pct). A short round of HCG well after a cycle when you should be recovered, using nolva to counteract any other sides (as well as help the 'PCT'), could be useful to jumpstart the HPTA. It shouldn't be used in high doses or for any real length of time, but I could see benefit in say 250iu ED for a week - along with nolva.
Before anyone starts this to kickstart the libido, you need to be sure the cause of your diminished libido is indeed low test. So many other factors could be causing the drop in libido (estrogen, prolactin, progestin, cortisol, mental, etc...) that by treating something that is not the root of the problem could end up making the situation worse than when you started. A good blood test can give insights into what may be causing the low sex drive. Just remember that libido is one of the most complicated problems to solve as there is virtually an unlimited number or possiblities that could be causing it, taking into account that the problem could be any number or physical as well as emotional/mental points of origin.
Good luck though, bro. I hope everything works out for you, and remember to think happy thoughts!
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[Warmachine]

500 to 1000 IU hcg 3 times a week for 6 weeks is an ON LABEL USE FOR Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). this is prescribed for hypoganadism in males.

i used a little nolva (20mg) with it and it worked real well.

 

[roccodart440]

500 to 1000 IU hcg 3 times a week for 6 weeks is an ON LABEL USE FOR Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). this is prescribed for hypoganadism in males.

i used a little nolva (20mg) with it and it worked real well.

AThere was a whole study written up on this. I'll see if I can dig it up. HCG is seen by the body as LH. It doesn't cause you to make more it shuts yours down. HCG is suppressive but it will kick your nuts into gear. nolva in saml amounts as you said 20mg ED is good to ward off gyno andkeep some natty test going but when the hcg ends you ned clomid, nolva, cyclofenil etc to get the natty test back into gear. THe balls will be ready to do this but you need to kick the brain in after that.

ANything over 500 fromn everything i've read is a waste. It supposeldly works just as god at 500 as it does at 1500. IOW with HCG more in one dose isn't beter. In too high of a dose can be dangerous to the lydeg cells.

 

[SteelSouth]

But the suggested use might be helpful, as he's not suggesting this as a standard post cycle therapy (pct). A short round of HCG well after a cycle when you should be recovered, using nolva to counteract any other sides (as well as help the 'PCT'), could be useful to jumpstart the HPTA. It shouldn't be used in high doses or for any real length of time, but I could see benefit in say 250iu ED for a week - along with nolva.
Before anyone starts this to kickstart the libido, you need to be sure the cause of your diminished libido is indeed low test. So many other factors could be causing the drop in libido (estrogen, prolactin, progestin, cortisol, mental, etc...) that by treating something that is not the root of the problem could end up making the situation worse than when you started. A good blood test can give insights into what may be causing the low sex drive. Just remember that libido is one of the most complicated problems to solve as there is virtually an unlimited number or possiblities that could be causing it, taking into account that the problem could be any number or physical as well as emotional/mental points of origin.
Good luck though, bro. I hope everything works out for you, and remember to think happy thoughts!
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I agree. But I wouldn't go any higher than 500iu's per day for fear of causing permanent damage to the Leydig cells.