AAS & Dangerous Red Blood Cell Count

[xtrmbody]

If you want more information do some checking on Polycythemia. There are two types one is Polycythemia Vera(this is a cancer condition dont worry not likely something we would worry about just yet) and Secondary. Secondary meaning the increase in Hemoglobin and hematocrit is due to a secondary condition..Dehydration, Smoking, Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). There are several reasons.
As far as giving blood. Check out redcross's website. You will be realy suprised what they will alow you to have and still donate. I was told about six months ago I had Polycythemia. My doc knows everything about me. He had me take time off and my levels were back normal in a couple of months. I was taking 600mgs of EQ weekly along with 30mgs of Dbol daily and 500mgs of Enanthate.

 

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I spoke (e-mail) to Mr. Rea and he indicated that COX-2 specific inhibitor medications such as celebrex are used by some people to help control this. Apparently use of celebrex causes some people to become anemic. So the basis of thought is that while the steroids increase the red blood cell count taking cox-2 drugs will keep it from getting to be a dangerous condition. (The fear is of the blood becoming thick enough to cause a blood clot and a stroke.At least that is what my Internist was freaking out about.)

In any case celebrex and other cox-2 drugs apparently do not have the potential to hinder gains in the manner that asprin may.

As I have a lot of milage on me getting celebrex or bextra is not a problem for me. I can get a 90 day supply for $30.00. I am going to try that for a while and then have another CBC done to see what changes have taken place.

As for as donating blood, can any of the Doc's tell us if we are posing a risk to anyone by doing this? I imagine the main reason they don't want it is the use of needles and the fact that most people doing steroids are doing so without a prescription.

 

[TheStromba]

I want to add another question. Wouldn't an increase in red blood cells cause a dramatic rise in blood pressure ? If you monitor your BP can this be caught early or is a CBC the ony way ?

 

[Governor]

Last I recall Bouncer was on 1.2g test/1.2g EQ.

haha close. Hes on 1.2 test EVERY 4 days. with a gram of EQ


...and get this......100dbol a day.

 

[rado]

From A meso article:

Q1: Mr. Rea: In your description of equipoise (In the book Chemical Muscle Enhancement) you said that long-term use of this Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for a lengthy protocol gave you an "unfavorable CBC result." What kind of result is this and how long is too long to remain on EQ.

A1: I neither endorse nor condemn the use of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) (Anabolic Androgenic Steroid) and related chemistries though I have dedicated many years to understanding their unique mechanisms. However, I do have a real problem with issues of health sabotaging protocols destructive simply by design without forethought. Maximum progress can be obtained without tempting death.

A simple CBC (Complete Blood Count) can help anyone avoid health problems of many origins…not only from Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use.

In the case of boldenone (Equipoise), the length of administration resulting in excessive and dangerous red blood cell count was dose dependent. Most have shown only acceptable upregulation at dosages of 200-400mg/w (@ 1-2mg per pound of bodyweight) for up to 12 weeks. However, dosages of 600-800mg/w (3-4mg per pound of body weight) usually resulted in exceeding the upper "safer" levels for red blood cell count after only 4-6 weeks of employment. This is a real concern. Red blood cell count elevation can result in blood clots, strokes and circulatory depreciation.

Many precontest athletes using longer Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) protocols have avoided this concern by using:

Lower dosages.
A 50/25/25 division between boldenone/nandrolone/Masteron (nandrolone draws water and Masterone mediates it).
Using the higher dosage range only the last 4 weeks precontest.


http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/030519.htm

" The average life cycle of a red blood cell is 120 days. "


How many of you guys who run long clyces (20 wks +), actually worry about this.? They make it sound like this is a stroke just waiting to happen. And do you think waiting 60 days between cycles is really enough to allow the red blood cell count to go down?

good post, thx.

 

[jolter604]

I went to donate blood and was rejected because it came back 21.5 hmmmmmmm.
On
Test 600
Eq 600
Deca 400

 

[jolter604]

Is 21.5 a dangeroisly high amount?