Any inputs to improve this cycle?
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Zero V
Prodigal son
Interesting...why are you doing a short ester short run of Test?
Not necessarily a bad concept since your using Prop, just interested. From what I have studied Clomid always, Nolva if you want with Clomid.
because im almost done my 12 weeks test enanthate cycle and imho long cycles get old. im going to start this cycle in septmeber/october. and i read that this was a popular combo. And i dont really want to do long cycles. i want something short and still powerful thats why i added tren. the test prop is just for libidos sake.
Cobra Strike
New member
run the tren as long as you run the test...
clomid or toremifiene for pct and if you want to use nolva then clomid and nolva as zero stated.
also LE's fuckin rock!
clomid or toremifiene for pct and if you want to use nolva then clomid and nolva as zero stated.
also LE's fuckin rock!
I've always read that youre supposed to stop the tren 2 weeks before the test?
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
drop the test to 75mg EOD, run the tren at 100-150mg EOD. tren is very androgenic, more so than test, they will compete for the androgen receptor, the tren will win, you will waste your test at that dose. and yes drop the dbol and add masteron................
edit: and go for 10 weeks
also your silly not to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with this cycle
edit: and go for 10 weeks
also your silly not to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with this cycle
Himik
Chemist
Srry i meant my 3rd cycle, my first cycle was a stupid Tbol only one* and my second was a test/Winnie/anavar ( i think the anavar was fake, probably underdosed dbol)
and i eat 4000 calories a day. My typical daily diet looks like this
Breakfast - 1 scoop ON whey, 4 whole eggs, half a cup of 35% whipping cream, 1 whole banana (sometimes peanut butter)
Lunch - 6 oz of any meat ( usually beef) , 1 cup of rice
Preworkout Meal - 6oz of any meat (usually beef), 1 cup of rice
Post workout meal - 2 scoops of on whey
Dinner - 6 - 8oz meat ( usually beef), 1 cups rice, (beans or yams)
Before bed - usually oatmeal with banana, milk, onwhey proteine shake, 4 raw eggs, sometiems almonds
protein comes out to about 200 - 300grams
carbs - 400 - 500grams
fat - 100 - 200grams
calories - 3500 - 4500
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Thanks for the solid advice, i read that test has to be atleast twice the amount of tren so u dont shutdown? wouldnt it be better to do short cycles, so that I can do more throughout the year?
and what dosage do u think is good for masteron? and for how many weeks?
Cobra Strike
New member
test shuts you down...all aas shuts you down...I guess the new thing is that you should run your test at a lower dose than tren...they both compete for the same receptor....oak or user can elaborate on this theory..
thetruepitbull
New member
Like Cobra said, regardless of which is higher you will be shutdown.
I look forward to eventually running my tren higher then my test to see how it goes.
I look forward to eventually running my tren higher then my test to see how it goes.
i kno that, but what i meant was, as i was browsing this cycle on other forums, i seen that people reccomended running test higher than tren to prevent i think loss of libido or something of that sort. but what oak is saying makes alot of sense.
DADAWG
Community Veteran
tren is funny , i know guys who have zero libido on tren and i know guys who swear it makes them lust monsters .basically your just going to have to see how tren affects you and adjust from there.
yea i guess ur right. is my diet alright since u were concerned with it?
and oak recommended running masteron? what dosage would be good and for how long?
i think thats with tren enanthate??
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
tons of people out there claim you need your test to be higher than the other AAS your taking and they come up with all kinds of reasons why, the bottomline is its simply not true at all.
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
If I was running EQ or Deca i would bump my test around 800, but thats because they are more of an anabolic and you will need the androgens form test. Like i said with tren, its 5x more androgenic and 5x more anabolic than test, so why wouldnt i want the tren hitting my receptors instead of the test?
just need test to around 3-500 week ( 3 for short esters 5 for long) to keep things working properly.
just need test to around 3-500 week ( 3 for short esters 5 for long) to keep things working properly.
