Anyone have an opinion on the recent TRT lawsuits ?

[christianbber]

reliongroup.com/dangerous-drugs/testosterone-therapy/

Been seeing these commercials a lot recently.

They claim,

In the study, men in their 60s with Low T showed an increased risk of adverse outcomes for those that used testosterone replacement therapy versus those men who did not. If you or a loved one used testosterone replacement therapy drugs and suffered a heart attack, stroke, or blood clot, or your loved one died as a result, contact the Relion Group today.

Would love to hear your opinions on this.

Thanks

 

[Mprtz]

My opinion is that many lawyers are opportunistic scum who will seize on the chance to exploit any situation without regard to the wider consequences.

I think this country is badly in need of tort reform. Lawsuits and the threat thereof greatly drive up the cost of medication, healthcare in general and stifle the development of new drugs and medical procedures.

 

[halfwit]

I couldn't have said it better. Even though there are a plethora of studies showing that the risk of DEATH are greater from long-term hypogonadism, and that MANAGED TRT is quite safe - the vultures need to scam a buck somehow.

 

[Mprtz]

I'm sure some of those lawyers are bitterly disappointed that TRT patients are stubbornly failing to drop dead at a suitably dramatic rate.

Controversies and Advances with Testosterone Therapy: A 40-Year Perspective

"Testosterone therapy (TTh) has become highly controversial.

Yet there are important health consequences of testosterone deficiency, and meaningful benefits with treatment.

There is level 1 evidence that TTh improves sexual function and desire, body composition, and bone density.

Concerns regarding cardiovascular risk were based on two deeply flawed retrospective studies, and are contradicted by dozens of studies showing CV benefits of TTh or higher endogenous testosterone, including placebo-controlled studies in men with known heart disease (angina, heart failure).

Prostate cancer should no longer be considered a risk of TTh.

Testosterone is neither scourge nor panacea- it is just good medicine."

 

[DINO-MITE]

Testosterone therapy, depending on dosage, WILL increase your red blood cell count (measured by hematocrit level). This thickens the blood, thus, leading to blood clots, strokes and heart attacks.

If you're on TRT, you should try to donate blood (or drain your blood) at least 3 times a year, to keep your blood from thickening.

 

[Chiefy]

Typical ambulance chasing by these lawyers. TRT is a safe treatment when used responsibly.

There's no doubt that people have been hurt by TRT, but that's typically caused by poor protocol management and inadequate monitoring of bloodwork.

It's not as simple as "inject this steroid and you'll feel good, see you in a year". There is a reason we do bloodwork so frequently. When problems arise, mainly polycythemia or extremely high estradiol, they need to be addressed so the patient can remain healthy.

Failure to do this can absolutely lead to serious health issues.

 

[IMT staff]

The following thread pretty much sums it up. The literature there is post lawsuit study. Many believe it was the makers of Viagra that supported the 2 studies that lead to the lawsuits because they are losing so much marketshare to TRT. Cialis lucked out because they are now FDA approved to coincide with TRT.


http://www.steroidology.com/forum/t...idence-cardiovascular-risk-jan-30-2015-a.html

Physicians in the above point out that this was a "retrospective" study. This means they did not put people on TRT and watch them, they went in to a database later. Many of these men, which I will add all had some sort of pre existing risk for a heart condition already, were on the gels and were not monitored properly most likely. Couple that with the recent study where injectable TRT gets high marks for safety and you can kind of see whats really going on.

 

[IMT staff]

Testosterone therapy, depending on dosage, WILL increase your red blood cell count (measured by hematocrit level). This thickens the blood, thus, leading to blood clots, strokes and heart attacks.

If you're on TRT, you should try to donate blood (or drain your blood) at least 3 times a year, to keep your blood from thickening.

Dr Morgantaler from the University of Harvard actually did a review on this in the New England Journal of Medicine and said out of everything they could find and looked at, there was not a single stroke or heart attack caused by TRT induced increased HH.

He also notes that although it has never happened it is nevertheless a risk factor and if it exceeds 55% you should discontinue TRT until you get it down.

Its one of those things that is talked about but doesn't happen that often, it is expected that testosterone will increase your cell count a little, that is why it benefits certain aspects of body function.

 

[DINO-MITE]

Dr Morgantaler from the University of Harvard actually did a review on this in the New England Journal of Medicine and said out of everything they could find and looked at, there was not a single stroke or heart attack caused by TRT induced increased HH.

He also notes that although it has never happened it is nevertheless a risk factor and if it exceeds 55% you should discontinue TRT until you get it down.

Its one of those things that is talked about but doesn't happen that often, it is expected that testosterone will increase your cell count a little, that is why it benefits certain aspects of body function.

Still doesn't hurt to give blood - but again - just my 2 cents.

 

[daleb]

If they are successful with this suit does that mean T is harder to get a hold of, or more expensive?

 

[halfwit]

If they are successful with this suit does that mean T is harder to get a hold of, or more expensive?

Lol, no. There have been countless suits against companies for hormone therapy/birth control over the years, and many of the drugs are no more expensive or hard to get than they were previously.

If anything negative comes from it, it would be lazy doctors that fear prescribing TRT because they don't want to be sued.

 

[Mprtz]

Lawyers also target concentrations of money, so I suspect the prime target will be the companies making creams and gels.