Anything stronger than Adex for AI????

[Ghost124]

Going over final checklist for coming up cycle. I want to talk AI.

I have 3 cycles under my belt and each cycle had puffy, sore or sensitive nipples. Each time I started cycle I was at 13% bf or lower. However I would still get gyno symptoms. I know that when you get symptoms of gyno you switch from .25mg EOD to .5mg ED. I do this and it helps for a few weeks. However it always ends up the same.

12 week cycle

Weeks 1-4-nothing all good @.25mg EOD
Weeks 4-5-gyno symptoms so going .5mg ED
Week 5-7-gyno under control going back down to .25mg EOD
Week 7-9-gyno symptoms are back going back to .5mg ED
Week 9-12 gyno symptoms slowly getting worse even going .5mg ED

So is there anything stronger than Adex?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Letrozole is the most potent AI there is. Very easy to crash your e2 though.

Do you get on cycle bloodwork? I really don't see a need for letro, as if you can just up the Adex dose until your in range.. I don't think your going to have to go too crazy with doses.

 

[tbonexl]

If your good at .50mgs then why drop it back down? Doesn't make any sense...

 

[snowpatrol123]

What compounds are you running?

.5 adex ED is quite a bit, maybe you're getting crappy ancillaries?

 

[Ghost124]

If your good at .50mgs then why drop it back down? Doesn't make any sense...

Well if someone can add on, I had someone tell me that it's bad to do higher and more frequant dosages of Adex...true or not? Because there is a huge difference between .25mg EOD and .5mg ED

What compounds are you running?

.5 adex ED is quite a bit, maybe you're getting crappy ancillaries?

Just test/var. And I doubt it because I buy from RUI only.

Letrozole is the most potent AI there is. Very easy to crash your e2 though.

Do you get on cycle bloodwork? I really don't see a need for letro, as if you can just up the Adex dose until your in range.. I don't think your going to have to go too crazy with doses.

Nope sure do not. This is my first cycle where I will run it with blood

 

[Megatron28]

You need to take as much Adex as necessary to control your E2. It isn't bad to take frequent doses at the necessary dosage. I am surprised you aromatize so much given your body fat %. You need blood work when you cycle.

 

[weavy88]

Going over final checklist for coming up cycle. I want to talk AI.

I have 3 cycles under my belt and each cycle had puffy, sore or sensitive nipples. Each time I started cycle I was at 13% bf or lower. However I would still get gyno symptoms. I know that when you get symptoms of gyno you switch from .25mg EOD to .5mg ED. I do this and it helps for a few weeks. However it always ends up the same.

12 week cycle

Weeks 1-4-nothing all good @.25mg EOD
Weeks 4-5-gyno symptoms so going .5mg ED
Week 5-7-gyno under control going back down to .25mg EOD
Week 7-9-gyno symptoms are back going back to .5mg ED
Week 9-12 gyno symptoms slowly getting worse even going .5mg ED

So is there anything stronger than Adex?

it would help if you told us how much gear and what kind of gear you're taking.

 

[Ghost124]

Whoops

500mg test E per week
75mg Var per day

Just to be clear: I can take .5mg ED if needed to and it won't do harm?

 

[Megatron28]

If needed, yes. If you dont need that much it can do tremendous harm -- but that is true with any AI.

 

[weavy88]

Whoops

500mg test E per week
75mg Var per day

Just to be clear: I can take .5mg ED if needed to and it won't do harm?

honestly dude, until you have bloodwork everything is just a guessing game. It's possible your adex is bunk or underdosed, or maybe you just don't respond well to it. My first response would be to tell you that dose of adex is waaaay too high considering what you're taking, but don't take our word for it, get bloods and then you can dial everything in.

 

[halfwit]

Whoops

500mg test E per week
75mg Var per day

Just to be clear: I can take .5mg ED if needed to and it won't do harm?

Some guys are just hypersensitive to estradiol too. I think you're taking the right steps in planning this out, but 0.5mg ED is seriously a shit-ton of adex - ESPECIALLY for 500mg/wk of test.

Why not start out at 0.5mg EOD, and get a blood test at 5 weeks in. I think the problem with how you've been doing it is that you're kind of letting the estradiol get ahead of you. Starting at the higher dose of adex, then evaluating after blood work will be your best bet.

My .02c

 

[JimiThing]

Some guys are just hypersensitive to estradiol too. I think you're taking the right steps in planning this out, but 0.5mg ED is seriously a shit-ton of adex - ESPECIALLY for 500mg/wk of test.

Why not start out at 0.5mg EOD, and get a blood test at 5 weeks in. I think the problem with how you've been doing it is that you're kind of letting the estradiol get ahead of you. Starting at the higher dose of adex, then evaluating after blood work will be your best bet.

My .02c

This is spot on. Time to stop chasing your tail man. Until you have some concrete numbers to work off of you are chasing your tail. The good thing is the blood work info you gather will serve you well into the future as far as dosing starting points and requirements when you do a similar cycle of aromatizing compounds in the future. You should still get blood work with future cycles but you will have a real good idea of proper starting dose etc.