Attn: Tren and NPP Users....Need Advice.

[A-10]

Trying to plan my next cycle but I can't decide what to run, it'll be my fourth, 5-11, 220, 14% bf i think. I'd like to go no more than 12 weeks. Had this in mind:

1-12 - 150mg eod Prop
2-10 - 100mg eod Tren Ace

or

1-12 - 150mg eod Prop
2-10 - 100mg eod Tren Ace
2-10 - 75mg eod NPP

HCG will be used throughout along with a 3-4 week run of IGF at 80mcg a day. I'll also be running IGF during post cycle therapy (pct) as well.

My last cycle was a Test/Tren (50mg eod) for 20 weeks. I ran the tren ace for 11 weeks in the middle of the 20 wk cycle and then after dropping it switched over to straight prop for a few weeks before starting post cycle therapy (pct). I'm in my 4th week of post cycle therapy (pct) right now and recovering great on my nolva/clomid/IGF post cycle therapy (pct). Dick is up and running, very little acne, etc...

My main concern is being shutdown with the Tren/NPP combo. I've seen some people say they get slammed with Deca as far as recovery but for those that have used it and seen results without bad recovery they say they love it. I'm also thinking of throwing into some duta/finasteride and some adex at a lower dose as well.

Has anyone seen a correlation between not being shut down on Tren and not being shut down on NPP or vice versa?

 

[Vegas]

My last cycle was a Test/Tren (50mg eod) for 20 weeks.

Why are you doubling your tren dosage for this cycle? How were your gains using 50mgs EOD?

Has anyone seen a correlation between not being shut down on Tren and not being shut down on NPP or vice versa?

I assume that you have never used nandrolone before? Some guys love running nandrolone at the same time as tren, but others have had some major problems. A concern of mine would be that you are increasing your tren dosage significantly at the same time you are adding nandrolone. This could lead to a number of prolactin-related side effects. Beyond that, you will want to have something on hand and possibly run something during your cycle to keep prolactin levels in check. Dostinex, vitamin B6, and bromo are all possible choices.

 

[A-10]

Why are you doubling your tren dosage for this cycle? How were your gains using 50mgs EOD?

Well the past two cycles I ran Tren at the exact same dose. Lifting routine, diet and mg of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) used were the exact same during both. The second cycle, most recent, I didn't have the same strength/gain increases as I did before. Looking around I see that a lot of people run it 75mg/ed or 150mg/eod, with the lower/median range of dosing seems to be 50mg/ed or 100mg/eod. I figure I'd bump it up this cycle to 100mg/eod since there were so few variables last cycle with the Tren.

I assume that you have never used nandrolone before? Some guys love running nandrolone at the same time as tren, but others have had some major problems. A concern of mine would be that you are increasing your tren dosage significantly at the same time you are adding nandrolone. This could lead to a number of prolactin-related side effects. Beyond that, you will want to have something on hand and possibly run something during your cycle to keep prolactin levels in check. Dostinex, vitamin B6, and bromo are all possible choices.

Yea this will be my first time with a nandro. I just didn't know if a majority of people have run Tren in the past with minimal sides/recovery problems and then running Tren along with NPP found they had a similar experience. My decision to go with the NPP/Tren Ace is in case symptoms arise then I can discontinue immediately. Recovery will have to be on a trial basis I spose.

 

[A-10]

Meh, I'll just go with the Tren Ace/Prop i spose. I know how I react to both those.

 

[Vegas]

Personally I have run deca and had major problems with recovery post-cycle. However when I have run tren (which is several times now) I have never had a problem post-cycle. I know of many who have had the same experience. Just food for thought I guess.