Beginner Cycle - Thoughts and Feedback

JTG11

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Hey guys,

Not sure if this is the right section, also posted in my steroid cycle forum, but happy to remove from whichever one is wrong.

I'm 20, going on 21. I am planning on doing a cycle in the next couple of months, I've done a lot of research about this, I am fully aware of the side effects, and I am aware, that I am not 25 and that I am a bit young. I've spent hours researching this and I do mean HOURS. I am not trying to be cocky, or ignorant, by ignoring the advice I have received about being too young from people far more experienced and older than I. I am aware of the side effects, and I'm fully prepared to accept the repercussions if this does go tits up.

I've come to this to get advice about my cycle and the safest way possible to carry it out. I know a lot of you will just comment "too young" or "see you when you come back saying help me". Again I've done the research, and I know what I am getting into. I could easily just create a new account and say I'm 30 and whatever, but I don't see the point in lying.

I am looking for genuine advice on my cycle, I have a source who can get it for me, who seems to know what he's talking about. Has a really good physique and said he started at 20. He's now 40, and doesn't have any major health problems that I am aware of. Definitely not on TRT.

Based on the sticky, I was gonna do the beginner cycle of just test e at 500mg for 12 weeks, and then run the pct, but he said that this wouldn't be much use. He said test e will take 4-5 weeks to get into system, and I can't start pct till 3 weeks after last pin. He said he wouldn't have advised this. What he suggested was the following:
week 1-12 Test Cyp or Test E. 250mg Sunday and Thursday. (500mg in total)
week 1-3 and 12-15 Test prop. 100mg Sunday Tuesday Friday (300mg)
week 1-15 Arimidex .25mg EOD (to help prevent gyno and that I may up it if I think I'm prone which is likely)
week 1-15 HCG 250iu twice a week (500iu to help prevent prolactin issues)
he also said something about proviron but I'll have to double check this with him. My goal is to put on mass, but don't want to get huge, I want to compete in a mens physique show next year, so I don't want a huge roid gut.

I am looking for genuine advice and am fully prepared to listen. I'm not going into this hot headed. I want to do this as safe as possible. I am planning on getting my bloods done before, the cycle, 3-4 weeks into cycle, and then 4 weeks after pct.

Training and nutrition I think I have a solid understanding of. I've been training a couple of years now, and I go 7 times a week for an hour to an hour and a half.

Stats
Height 5ft 9
weight 180lbs
bf 12%

Looking forward to hearing your advice guys, cheers
 
Noone s going to repeat themselves. There s a lot of threads on this and stickies too son.

U got what those of know do not, time. And u got the internet and us to draw upon WHEN IT S TIME.
 
In short you've been advised. I don't care how you think you are accepting the possible ramifications what you don't realize is you have NO CLUE as to what you will feel like when your are 10,20,30 or even 40 years older LIKE ME.

I didn't want kids, I wanted to marry a blonde with a fantastic jaw dropping body, I wanted this and that. I didn't;t want this or that or give a shit. I can smoke my pot, oh I can do a little LSD, oh Cocaine isn't habit forming (ha that was 60's) I know one thing I'll never do heroin and that I'm fvckin sure of.

So I got married and had three beautiful kids and now awesome grandkids. The I started all the drugs that were ok and I knew just what I wanted and so on. Don't tell me shit I know I'm 18,20, and 23 . But I never dreamed I would be an addict, spend my inheritance in a year 1/2 a million. I won't quit this corporate position, I'm the best they got and I know it. Ha quit the job with the money .
SO fast forward to 2011 when I get out of detox after 47 years of drugs. No more GC license lost that, no more dad's 2k diamond 37,000 and the list goes on. No money and I'm on SSD. And on top of it I have a high IQ and college, but still look what happened.

So your so smart you accept this because you are 20 and have a fvckin crystal ball. WTF do you have any idea how you sound. You accept so we should teach you how to load that gun to play Russian Roulette. Sorry kiddo I don't want to be a part of this shooting :flamingma
 
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For what reason do you feel you need to start screwing yourself up?
Because that's what you will do!!!

And it sounds like your the man. I mean damn bro. You must really know just about all there's to know. Holy shit you spent hours and oh boy you mean hours. Researching aas. Obviously you know soooo much you even know about roid gut?¿.

If you are as smart as you claim why are you going to do something so dumb?

All bullshit aside you don't need aas at your age! You need ass and odds are if you start playing around with aas now you won't be playing around with no ass because you will develop some form of noodle dick.
Also why did you come here for advice? you already knew what advice you will get. Sounds like your 40 year old bro. at the gym that you're gonna get your gear from has a bunch of bro. Science advice for you.

The guy sounds like a douche bag if he's getting a kid like you some gear.

I'm not trying to be a dick.

So if you want to fuck your self up good luck and have fun pinning the rest of your life. And keep cialis on hand.
 
I'm 35 and on week 10 of my first cycle. Even with juice I'm not as strong or big as I was at 22 and natural. Save the aas for when you need them.
 
I never claimed to be smart? Just said I've done some reading? I've a competition coming up in a couple of months time which is why I want to do this. I'm not planning on running cycles continuously, just the one to give me about 10lbs. That's all I'm looking for?
 
I never claimed to be smart? Just said I've done some reading? I've a competition coming up in a couple of months time which is why I want to do this. I'm not planning on running cycles continuously, just the one to give me about 10lbs. That's all I'm looking for?

It seems like you already made up your mind. But are you serious when you think reading for hours and literally hours will make you an expert ? F**k I've been a member since November, before that I was also reading up on AAS and anything related so that's about 8 months of reading and learning about AAS. Does this make me an expert ? hell no. Does this make me go against people with +10 years of experience ? no. Start listening to the people who are handing out advice for you or deal with the consequences later on. This is just my take on it.
 
I m so jaded I never got past " I m 20....."

OP u got real good input.
It s obvious u did SOME reading. Reading the back of a can of soup is some reading. Stick w us and learn or get mad and sulk off.
It s never only 1 cycle, 1 line or 1....anything.
 
I'm not sulking, or getting mad, and I didn't mean to claim or give of the impression that I see myself ad overly educated about them. I know basic stuff about them, as in which compound cn do what, not anything more than that. Just tried to express that I've done some reading and not "I just want steroids". Defimitly not n expert or even very educated, just a very basic understanding of what does what.

I'm still unclear though, as to how running 1 cycle a year for 12 weeks, could screw up my system. Would the rest of the time off not be enough time for my system to go back to normal? The dose I'm talkimg about isn't even that high I would have thought?

Again, nit trying to stand on anyone's toes, and haven't fully made up my mimd, I'm trying to educate myself first before I do my first cycle
 
I'm not sulking, or getting mad, and I didn't mean to claim or give of the impression that I see myself ad overly educated about them. I know basic stuff about them, as in which compound cn do what, not anything more than that. Just tried to express that I've done some reading and not "I just want steroids". Defimitly not n expert or even very educated, just a very basic understanding of what does what.

I'm still unclear though, as to how running 1 cycle a year for 12 weeks, could screw up my system. Would the rest of the time off not be enough time for my system to go back to normal? The dose I'm talkimg about isn't even that high I would have thought?

Again, nit trying to stand on anyone's toes, and haven't fully made up my mimd, I'm trying to educate myself first before I do my first cycle

Look kid I guarantee you will not do just one cycle. It's a wrap you will keep doing it.

I remember when I put nitrous on my mustang. I was your age and I was convinced I would only use it sometimes. Two weeks and nine bottles later my block was cracked.

Once you get on aas you obviously know it enhances performance. Once you get a taste of that you will be saying only one more cycle. And years later like most of us here you will still be doing it.

Don't rush anything. It's not like you get a million dollars for the contest you want to enter.

Wait till your older.
 
I'm not sulking, or getting mad, and I didn't mean to claim or give of the impression that I see myself ad overly educated about them. I know basic stuff about them, as in which compound cn do what, not anything more than that. Just tried to express that I've done some reading and not "I just want steroids". Defimitly not n expert or even very educated, just a very basic understanding of what does what.

I'm still unclear though, as to how running 1 cycle a year for 12 weeks, could screw up my system. Would the rest of the time off not be enough time for my system to go back to normal? The dose I'm talkimg about isn't even that high I would have thought? Again, nit trying to stand on anyone's toes, and haven't fully made up my mimd, I'm trying to educate myself first before I do my first cycle

There you have it. ^^^ In bold you don't understand because you haven't researched enough. The part about addiction , never just one is true. Just take a poll and read up on that.
It's not the dose, because the exogenous testosterone will shut you down and even with the proper precautions you MIGHT NOT restart. Russian roulette again. I you are doing physique shows ? So you take this risk for some little trophy that will gather dust and you will prob throw away in a few years.

I had so may water ski trophies and they finally got old and nasty and unimportant to me, the dumpster ate them. Remember it is a risk, a great risk and for what.
 
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