Break for a bit...! But bare minimum...!

[Learner]

Hi everyone,

I'm 29 years old
Been using gear now for around 3 years and I train very hard
I'm 6,2 and weight around 105kg

When I first started I used to cycle properly and always made great gains, lately my gains have tapered off completely I'm constantly at the same weight although it does go up and down a few kg but nothing drastic.
I haven't had a break since around September and that was a very short break of like 4 weeks and I continued to take 10mg of dianabol throughout and I didn't run any pct products at all.
Lately I've been taking 800mg of testosterone each week (400mg test decoanate - 400mg test enanthate) and 600mg of nandrolone decoanate. I don't make any gains anymore I am totally saturated I even feel slightly depressed due to what I believe are low test levels due to saturation.
It's like I'm not even on gear anymore, my weight it's the same and I look great (so they say) but I feel shit, but I'm scared to come off too long.
I have 2 weeks gear left so I need to plan a PCT of sort, and this isn't going to be anything long I promise that, just long enough for some receptors to clear as I'm not looking for recovery that's not my aim here.
A few weeks back I had bloodwork done and my doctor was amazed and so was I... I have excellent functioning organs all around, we were both quite shocked but it seems my body is excellent at clearing away toxins... Although I don't drink or smoke and my diet is pretty good.
So as I was saying I'm looking at a minimul break of 5-6 weeks' I will be taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (big doses) along with clomid and nolvadex.
I'm looking for opinions on doses and time scales, 2 weeks today is my last injection.
When I jump back on its gonna be a quick start of propionate with tren acetate and dianabol, as a kick start along with some cypionate and tren enanthate.

All advice welcome

When it comes to my blood work, the gear is good... Half my gym take it and we have some pro's who take it too and everyone is happy..... The pros told me to drop to 200mg test each week for 6 weeks and this will allow enough receptor clearing, but I want your advice too.!

Thanks guys

 

[4everBulking]

The 200mgs/wk that the guy told you is a cruise it allows your body to take kind of a rest from everything. And yes he's right

 

[Learner]

Thanks a lot for your quick reply..!

So is it possible for my receptors to clear if I drop to the 200mg each week.?
Obviously this sounds like the better deal to me, due to my severe paranoia of coming off completely.
Or will a straight six weeks break be better or even 4 weeks off followed by 4 weeks of propionate at a low 200mg each week, in a sence giving me a little of both options.
Also if I'm ok to ask then what type of breaks do you take 4everbulking, I mean you look great quite a bit better than me... I mean I look ok just not your level ATM.

 

[Learner]

Any opinions.?

 

[amvdub]

I can sorta relate. I've been on for over 8 months now. Probably get flamed on for that, but same as you every time I get ready to come off, i start running a new compound and feel great. I've been averaging about 1300mg/wk between 3 compounds. I've been doing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) whole time. I'm in the best shape I've ever been, and look great, but also feel like I hit the top and scraping up against my genetic ceiling. I just started running humulin r and humulog insulin last week and going to try and add some mass in the next 4 weeks. I've been on and off several peptides, ghrp6, cjc1295, igf. They were ok, but nothing fantastic. I'm hoping to get some gains from the slin. After that I plan on weening off with some var. Afraid as shit, thinking of coming off!!!

 

[Learner]

I've done the same too, I was using insulin for a bit just before Christmas, I found it great... You wake up the next morning with a semi pump or at least I found that anyway.... I got some ghrp6 I think I'm gonna use too and get back on the insulin see how it goes, I do need a break though so I might cruise with 200mg of test p, creatine, insulin and ghrp6 with some HCG... I can't see me loosing too much size on all those compounds and it should offer some receptor clearing.

 

[amvdub]

did your arms ever feel like they fall asleep or go numb while on slin? cjc made me feel like that too, after a month I just stopped taking it.
How long will u be running test at 200mg and do u plan to take a short, gear free break or jump back on after?
I'm hoping to use the Anavar (var) with low dose test as an 8 week bridge.

 

[Learner]

Didn't really get any negative sides from the insulin except once, I took my insulin at the gym right after training drank a large protien shake, bottle of lucazade and eaten a sandwich came home felt great but fell asleep (usually eat clean every hourish for about 4 or 5 hours with a glucose drink while on insulin) after waking a few hours after my sleep I was fine at first, my gf was preparing my meal so I went upstairs and felt really funny started sweating and going dizzy my Vision was slightly blurred too, I rushed downstairs grabbed a sugary drink, drank quarter jar of honey and didn't stop eating till my belly hurt.... Then I was fine' and I've never been to sleep after insulin again...
That really scared me and it should be a lesson to anyone reading, make sure you do your research before messing with such dangerous chemicals.. If I didn't wake up I might never have woken up.

As for the bridge, I'm thinking 6-8 weeks I'll see how I feel....if I'm shit after 4 weeks I can always up the propionate to 300mg cos when I go on cycle I'm probably gonna be a minimum of 1200mg total so even at 25% it should still be low enough... But I am gonna try stick to 200mg.

With a high dose of creatine there should be enough water retention to minimise weight loss and keep me mentally sound.

 

[amvdub]

yep, thats rule number one, make damn sure you dont fall asleep while its active.
Good luck man.

 

[Matt0071]

also on a long cycle as well since last june, started out with 400mg/week of test c, then up it to 500mg/week adding in diferrent oral compounds every 2-3 months, now running 600mg/week of test and 450mg/week of npp, just added npp in the game a few weeks ago, was plan on running it for another 8 weeks then come off and do a hard pct and see where my levels are at after my post cycle therapy (pct), but was also thinking of maybe just folliowng up on a cruize doze of 200mg/week for a good 10 weeks
kind of up in the air on what route i wanna do, either cruize or pct and see if my nards come back or not

 

[Learner]

Matt if you do choose to cruise try adding some HCG for that period, I mean it's not gonna offer you a full recovery but it might just remind your body that it has a pair of balls.

Best of luck mate..!