bulk & cruise?

ls1silverta

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Hello all, another slightly confused newbie here. First off, this site is awesome, and there's tons of information that has been really helpful, so thanks to all the knowledgeable people here who post info & help out us noobs.
I'm 32 years old, 210 lbs, 14% bf. I'm also about 6 weeks into my first cycle (600mg Test E ew, 20mg Nolvadex ed. I would like opinions about a short "bulk & cruise" cycle. I'd like to cruise for 2 weeks on 200mg per week once my current cycle is up, then continue with 600mg Test E per week, but also add 300mg Deca, and 20-30mg Dbol. 20mg Nolvadex every day, and Clomid for the last 3 weeks. Is HCG a necessity here, or would arimidex or similar product be enough? After pct would be a 2 month break, and then a cut cycle (test, anavar, clen). I've heard that bulk & cruise equals testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life and can make you permanently sterile... I don't have kids, but I would like to keep that option open if possible, and I don't want to be married to needles for the rest of my life. This seems like it might be ok, but I need some expert opinions before I start something like this.
Also, I apologize if this info is already here somewhere, but I didn't come across anything that seemed similar enough to fully answer my concerns. Thanks in advance :)
 
While nothing is certain, you're rolling the dice by just cycling. If you want kids, why take the extra chance? Unless you're a pro, just do a normal cycle and allow your body to recuperate imo. This is coming from a guy that is "married" to needles. :p

My .02c :)
 
Time on should be AT LEAST the amount of time off. If youre running a 12 week cycle, (19 weeks total) then you should take at least 3 months off. If youre wanting to have kids, cutting corners on AAS is not the way to do it.
 
While nothing is certain, you're rolling the dice by just cycling. If you want kids, why take the extra chance? Unless you're a pro, just do a normal cycle and allow your body to recuperate imo. This is coming from a guy that is "married" to needles. :p

My .02c :)

Thanks for the advice, I'll go the "safe" route and recover first. My comment about being married to needles wasn't meant to be negative, I just meant that I hope to regain full natural test production afterwards and not be forced into hrt in the future. Hell, that might happen anyway. Rolling the dice just like everybody else here, lol.
 
Thanks for the advice, I'll go the "safe" route and recover first. My comment about being married to needles wasn't meant to be negative, I just meant that I hope to regain full natural test production afterwards and not be forced into hrt in the future. Hell, that might happen anyway. Rolling the dice just like everybody else here, lol.

No offense taken, I actually liked your analogy since it is a lifetime commitment once you take that leap. :p Glad to see that you've thought it through, I know a couple of guys that have had to go to fertility docs because of their careless/improperly planned cycles in their younger years.

Welcome to 'ology! :)
 
Just take the time off man. If you "cruise" you'll regret it in the future. I cruise myself, but decided to do so because for 1) I compete and am attempting to go pro 2) I never want kids 3) I have dedicated 5+ years to this sport. If you were to run a long cycle like that, I can almost gurantee you WILL be on trt. You really want to stick yourself until you're 80 or 90? Think about that man. Good luck.
 
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