Bulking Cycle then Cutting Cycle IS this wrong?

[Aesthetic]

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IT makes sense that you want to maintain weight after a bulking cycle...but supposing you want to bulk up and you are already at a bf higher than you want to end up at...but you are too small to cut ...and you want to gain new muscle then strip off the fat...it would then make sense to bulk up as clean as possible...then after the cycle...take low dose of t3 combined with cardio, Clen, Tren and winstrol in order to lean out and even gain new muscle while losing bf. Am I off base??

 

[jcp2]

how bout you run some test and gain some muscle. It sounds like you don't have much of it to begin with, maybe even try gaining some without drugs. At this point you could probably run test eat a balanced clean diet and gain muscle and lose fat.

 

[Aesthetic]

Hey buddy it was just a question...don't assume I don't have muscle because I feel like I don't have enough to cut down right now and still be as big as I would like to be. I'm 5'9 200lbs. at around 10%bf...FYI...I have done 2 cycles...the first consisting of test...and the second a low dose of tren EOD...But it is debatable whether you really gain more muscle from TESTOSTERONE than from compounds like EQ...Most the guys that amp up on test become bloated...and lose most of their gains even after pct..because after they lose all that water bloat they gain about as much quality muscle as they would on deca. Unless they ran an anti e but then again why go through that to keep water down when you could take some thing less androgenic...The whole point of my post was...figuring out if it would be tougher to maintain muscle on various compounds when trying to lean out right after a bulking cycle...thanks for answering my questions.

 

[jcp2]

At 10% bodyfat you have more than enough muscle to cut down. If you read your first post and then the one you just wrote than you sound like two different people. Actually at 10% their isnt much cutting to do.

I don't think it is tougher to keep muscle from the various compound, i think it just appears that way, due to water. As for a good look and what i thought always worked well, test eq, or test eq tren i though were always good, you could keep the test on the lower side.

 

[GymLift]

All I gotta say is that many small guys stay small 'cause they don't wanna get fat.

 

[BigTrip]

I agree 200lbs shouldn't be a cut point. I feel frail at 250lbs. Keep bulking till you can't any longer.

 

[Aesthetic]

I didn't mean to mislead anybody I have a good build but I wouldn't consider 10-11% bf ripped and at 200lbs. thats not big either. I would like to be 6.5- 7% bf at 200lbs. ...I just don't think I'll ever be big enough...in the off season...I think I may go with the EQ and test like you mentioned. I'm not vascular ...been told I have thick skin ...so for me to look ripped I feel I would have to cut...right now...I look as though I'm 12-13%bf but the calipers say around 10 last time I had them taken.

 

[GymLift]

I just don't think I'll ever be big enough...

Eat big and you will get big, assuming your training is up to snuff.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I'm always a fan of lean bulking keeping the water and extra estrogen related fat deposits

 

[Zemaire]

It's called test + tren and then finish with test+mastron... it will drop the bf down while boasting mass. Just lift hard, eat carbs & protein and get 30 minutes of cardio 5 days a week.