Caloric intake while on tren?

[shonosuke]

I plan to run the following cycle next march

Test-e 250 1-12
Tren-e 400 1-10
Winstrol 50 1-5

First time using Tren. Anyway the purpose of this cycle is to get into single digit bf and get as lean as possible without the use of fatburners such as clen and t3

What should my caloric intake be? Normally I would be on a 300-500 deficit but I heard with Tren you can eat tons and still lean out but I've also heard Tren works the best when you go as low as 1800 calories. Or should I just eat at maintenance while on tren?

Stats:

6'3 220 lbs @ 14%

 

[MustangDX]

What's your age and cycle history?

 

[shonosuke]

What's your age and cycle history?

24 and it will be my second cycle. First one was classic Test-e dbol

I know using Tren for a second cycle is not the smartest thing to do, especially not enth but I'm willing to take the risk since I'm running low test high tren the sides should be a lot less severe

 

[bigkit34]

Switch to tren ace since you never ran it before and drop the winstrol it messes with your joints and with increased strength from tren your asking for an injury. I would use Anavar (var) instead it helps with collagen synthesis

 

[bigkit34]

Its not guaranteed that low test high tren will give you less sides. Some people me included like it that way but you wont know till you try it

 

[f500]

I have same question. I'm going to be running test-p, tren-a, and stanz toward the end of the cycle for 8 weeks. Its my first time with tren and was wondering about my caloric intake?

37yrs
250lbs
6'1"
18%bf

 

[MustangDX]

Are you running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or anti-prolactin?

 

[MustangDX]

I have same question. I'm going to be running test-p, tren-a, and stanz toward the end of the cycle for 8 weeks. Its my first time with tren and was wondering about my caloric intake?

37yrs
250lbs
6'1"
18%bf

You should start your own thread...

 

[shonosuke]

Switch to tren ace since you never ran it before and drop the winstrol it messes with your joints and with increased strength from tren your asking for an injury. I would use Anavar (var) instead it helps with collagen synthesis

Thanks, what about calories? Can I still lean out with a surplus of 400-500? Heard Tren works like magic.

And I would use Anavar (var) but the ana Anavar (var) here is often just winstrol with a higher price tag

 

[shonosuke]

Are you running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or anti-prolactin?

Not a big fan of Aromatase inhibitor (AI). And yeah I plan to always run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) when I cycle.

 

[DANGER--US]

Its not guaranteed that low test high tren will give you less sides. Some people me included like it that way but you wont know till you try it

Is running it at this ratio just to keep your T level stable? ( more tren,less test )?

 

[MustangDX]

Not a big fan of Aromatase inhibitor (AI). And yeah I plan to always run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) when I cycle.

Your just asking for every side effect in the book...

 

[bigkit34]

If your goal is to get to single digits from 14%bf then no i wouldnt surplus. I`d go into a deficit 500 dropping 5% is harder starting from where ypu are. Somebody who was 20% would have an easier time the lower your bf gets the slower it comes off

 

[shonosuke]

Your just asking for every side effect in the book...

I had almost no sides at all during my test-e and dbol cycle. Barely blew up from the water retention and my nipples were fine. All I got was some slight acne that faded away in days. I see no reason to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but might look into anti-prolactin.

I do always have nolvadex on hand might any estrogen related sides pop up

 

[shonosuke]

If your goal is to get to single digits from 14%bf then no i wouldnt surplus. I`d go into a deficit 500 dropping 5% is harder starting from where ypu are. Somebody who was 20% would have an easier time the lower your bf gets the slower it comes off

Thanks. 500 sounds like a good number.

 

[MustangDX]

I had almost no sides at all during my test-e and dbol cycle. Barely blew up from the water retention and my nipples were fine. All I got was some slight acne that faded away in days. I see no reason to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but might look into anti-prolactin.

I do always have nolvadex on hand might any estrogen related sides pop up

 

[bigkit34]

Just cause ypu didnt feel any sides doesnt mean they werent present. Estro can raise bp to unsafe levels and other shit you cant see

 

[DipKing]

Male lactation is something no man should ever have to experience buddy.

 

[KingPen]

Not a big fan of Aromatase inhibitor (AI).

For what reason? I don't see any logical explanation for this. There is literally no reason not to use an AI.

 

[Soon]

24 and it will be my second cycle. First one was classic Test-e dbol

I know using Tren for a second cycle is not the smartest thing to do, especially not enth but I'm willing to take the risk since I'm running low test high tren the sides should be a lot less severe

I found the opposite to be true for me. Significant lethargy when I kept test and tren the same. As soon as I bumped up the test I felt so much better.