Can i still frontload? tren/test cycle

[thewilcotx]

This is my cycle
Wk 1-4: Tbol40mg/ed
Wk 1-10: Test-e 400mg/week
Wk 1-10: Tren-e 600mg/week
Wk 1-10: Adex 0.25mg/eod
Wk 1-10: Hcg 500iu/week
Wk 13-16: Nolvadex20/ed

I reacted very badly on the Tbol, every time i took it i was up all night vomitting, maybe it's because i had a liver problem once, anyways i'm gonna leave it out of my cycle
Now my question is, is it too late to frontload, i started saturday with my first pin: 250/250, then wednesday my second, can i do another pin today to frontload this week, or should i do a third pin next week?, or is it too late :/

 

[DrHouse]

In my opinion, front loading is a silly concept. Injecting more doesn't reduce the ester. If you had test prop or suspension then maybe.

My advice, be patient. When the tren kicks in that's all you'll want

 

[tbonexl]

I would extend your test a couple weeks longer then tren. Your pct is half ass with just nolva. Add Clomid too. I didn't see any mention of a dopamine antagonist either. Better look into it.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I'd drop the test to 250mg per week and let the tren do the work and more importantly to reduce sides.

What was your liver problem? If you know you have a liver problem then you should also know that oral steroids are a no-no. Just stick with the Test and Tren.

What ester is your Tren? Enanthate or Acetate?

And yes as tbone said, where is your dopamine agonist (not antagonist)?

Nolva only PCTs are old school and not as effective as Torem or Clomid, I suggest some Toremifene.

AR-R stocks Torem, Clomid and Prami (a DA agonist).

 

[thewilcotx]

Thanks guys, i tried taking the tbol different times because i didn't want to lose that 'kick' but it rly fucks me up, i'll probably extend my Test now

i went on vacation and drank too much alcohol so when i came back i was reallly sick for about 2 weeks and it was because of my liver, it crashed basically, i'm not sure if this now has anything to do with it, my 2 friends are taking the same Tbol & they have no problems.

It's enanthate, & i already added Clomid.
Maybe It's quite noobish of me but i didn't know i had to add a dopamine agonist, why do i have to take it, is it for the tren? & what dosages should i take

 

[STAUNCHED427]

What is your liver problem? Have you been diagnosed? Have you had it checked out?

I'm not sure what SERMS are like on the liver, but not only that why the fuck are you drinking alcohol with a liver issue?

Tell me this isn't your first cycle...

 

[thewilcotx]

I don't think i have a liver problemn, i think it just crashed from excessive alcohol usage then. i haven't been diagnosed with something. i had no liver issues, just the one after that vacation. It's my second cycle

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Go get it checked for the sake of checking it, throwing up on oral AAS might mean something, most people that reject orals just feel lethargic and have no appetite.

Tren for a second cycle is a little bit up there man.

 

[Norsegod]

Imho, it's far too soon for tren, but you already started so get your dopamine agonist asap. It's for 19 nor compounds i.e., deca, tren. It's prevents prolactin build up which will cause your nipples to lactate. You don't want that. That dose of ai might be a bit low, but the only way to know is blood testing. It is vital to keep your e2 in check as it is a precursor to prolactin.

Also, tren is hard on the liver. You need to get your liver checked immediately. Don't dick around when it comes to your health. You only get one body, brother.

Also, pct must be taken seriously ESPECIALLY with harder compounds like tren. You should also get some hcg to run throughout.

You need more knowledge and experience before you run tren. You should have ran npp first to see how you react to 19 nor gear and you also should have gotten tren ace instead of enanthate that way if you do get sides you could have had the tren clear of your system much faster. Now, if you get bad sides you'll have to deal with them for a few weeks while the longer ester works it's way out of you. Be more careful next time. Don't become a statistic.

Good luck brother