Carbolin 19 versus Anavar

[Maerwynn]

Hey Everyone, new to the site and just wanted to ask a question. I have never used any AAS but was considering a cycle of var. Was doing some reading and there was an article about Carbolin 19 being a good alternative to var. Does anyone have any experience with it and does it really work as well as var. Just wanted to see if anyone had tried both and what your results were. Don't want to waste money on something that isn't going to produce any results.

Thanks for your input.

Maerwynn

 

[Miss Muscle]

Hi Maerwynn....the first thing I should let you know is that we are not allowed to discuss sources here....please read the rules.

 

[Miss Muscle]

Read this...

Review: Biotest Carbolin-19...Is it Better than Anavar?

You can conclude Carbolin has promise but hasn't been around long enough to really see how people react.

I don't know anyone who has used it personally nor have I ever come across anyone on any forums that has used it.

At least anavar has a proven track record.

The best I can say is that give it a try and see if you like it!

Also....if something has been around for a few years it is still around for a reason. Alot of supplement companies come out with new supplements that don't even last 2 years because they just don't make a significant difference. Carbolin has only been around a short while. You may want to see if it stays around.

 

[Maerwynn]

My apologies, like I said, first time on here, will take time to read the rules so not to make anymore mistakes. Thanks for your input

 

[estray]

Im not sure how one can compare an anabolic steroid to a fatbuner. Apples and oranges. Besides, anavar's fat reducing claims are HIGHLY overrated.

 

[JayC]

Im not sure how one can compare an anabolic steroid to a fatbuner. Apples and oranges. Besides, anavar's fat reducing claims are HIGHLY overrated.

I was thinking the same thing...
Agree on the var/fat loss statement but have noticed that fat loss actually seems to be better and easier to keep off it its run at low doses for long periods rather then higher doses for shorter.

 

[Miss Muscle]

Thanks for the input Jay and Estray. I always wondered how anavar really was for burning fat. I've heard mixed things.

 

[Maerwynn]

I wasn't really looking at the fat burner side of it( sitting at about 16% bf right now). The one article I was reading was spouting that it out performed Anavar (var) in lean muscle gains, which is my goal at this time. I've been lifting for 2 years now and a bit of a hard gainer, seems like I can't ever eat enough to steadly gain weight ( I eat as much as my male roomate who is a PT and builder, he's around 200lbs). The past six months I've held steady at the 116lb mark , I'm 5'3, but dropped about 4% bf and now have kinda leveled out. Tried the gainer protein but that just seemed to bloat me up, plus didn't want all the sugar that goes with it. More or less I was just looking at different things that might help push me up to next level but if I could do it without aas's, I would like to go that route first. I want to compete in figure and was hoping to lean out in the 115 to 120 range, Competing this year was my goal but have pretty much pushed that back to next year and spend this year getting where I want to be size wise.

If any of you more experienced and knowledgeable people would like to kick some suggestion and ideas my way, I would greatly appreciate any input you would like to give.

Thanks

 

[estray]

I would be suspect about claims that an OTC supp can outperform a bonafide steriod in lean gains.


That being said, it sounds like you want to put on 7-8lbs of muscle and lean out. That would put you at 115lbs and 10% bf. Anavar (var) can do that for you but dont expect it all at once. Maybe 3-4 cycles would be more realistic. If that doesnt fit in your time frame and you are serious about competing then you should probably look at something a little stronger.

 

[Miss Muscle]

How much cardio are you doing Mar? Maybe you are doing too much?

Obviously you have to choose calorie rich foods that won't fill you up...here are some ideas. This is from about.com.

Gaining muscle requires that you eat more calories than you burn. For those with high metabolisms, that may seem impossible, but if you try a few of these tricks, you'll find that adding calories to your day is easier than you think:

Choose calorie-rich foods like granola, bagels, biscuits, avocados, olives, corn, meat, nuts, peanut butter, milk, yogurt and cheese.
Add extra calories to your meals by using milk instead of water for soups, sauces and hot cereals.
Sprinkle powdered milk into casseroles.
Add calorie-rich foods (like avocado, cheese and dressing) to sandwiches and salads
Mix beans, meat or cheese into pasta or side dishes
Snack on yogurt, shakes, crackers and dip
Keep a food diary for a week or so to get an idea of what you're eating and where you can add more calories
The trick is to add calories without adding too much saturated fat. You can also consider downing smoothies or meal replacement shakes in between meals.


I've gain unwanted weight using some of these ideas like using milk too much instead of water.

Also how often are you lifting?

 

[Maerwynn]

I have been doing almost no cardio except a 10 minute warm up prior to lifting. If I do cardio its a 10 to 15 min HITT session of jump rope and sprints. I do a 4 day split with my weight training, with lots of compound movements in each session.

On the food list, I'm already eating all but the olives and avacados, I dont use whole milk, use 1% milk in shakes, cereals, any bread I eat is whole wheat, I eat potatoes during the day, sweet and white. Brown rice, lots of veggies and lean meat.

I have a very good appetite, I eat every 2 hours sometimes more, this week, I can eat and be starving again 5 mins later, lol. Right now I think I'm barely maintaining.

Here is what I've had so far today.
breakfast 1 full serving of oatmeal w/tbs PB
snack- protein shake w/ water
snack- about 2 handfulls of dry roasted peanuts
lunch- large boneless chic breast w/ about 3 cups greenbeans
snack- yogurt fat free
when I get home I will fix another protein shake/ do 1/2 preworkout-1/2 after, then I will have dinner which will be a pork chop and something green and maybe some brown rice
bedtime- casin shake.

I will change this up daily, and do pasta w/chic, or tuna and a potatoe. I'll do omlets for breakfast with ham or chic/add cheese. I have been trying to mix it up a bit. I've even had some ice cream twice this week. Bad girl, lol

Just a bit more background I am 37 years old, no children, I got into lifting after going through 2 knee surgery's in 8 months. I was on crutch's for almost the whole time. I met my BF and current roomate and he got me into it. Before I started lifting I had gained some weight and lost lots of muscle in my left leg (almost have that corrected) I started at 128lbs and 30% bf at 5'3.

Right now I don't mind putting on a little extra if it helps get me where I want to be.

Thanks for the responses, guess I will just keep trying to add a little more food each week and see what happens.

 

[estray]

Also, if youre a hardgainer you should eat less frequent but larger meals. Figure out how many calories youre eating a day now and add 200-300 but cut a couple meals out and get it all in 4 meals instead of 6 or 7. All eating every 2 hours is doing is keeping your metabolism racing.

 

[Miss Muscle]

I notice you are eating really clean. This is great but if you are a hard gainer don't be afraid to get some extra fat in like salad dressings, whole milk, etc. You might be getting full from volume of food. Less volume more calories....you will be able to eat more.

Put milk in your protein shakes for example.

 

[Maerwynn]

Thanks everyone for your input. I will your suggestions into play and see what happens.