Causation of a POME

[onotadaki]

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[UserAt204]

I get tren cough frequently when using it and have had a coypu from cyp/enanthate and Sustanon (sust) but it was not as strong by any means. For me, slower injects, mixing tren with test and smaller injects all helped. It's rare that I get it anymore.

No response as to why it happens

 

[Craig_G]

Pome

Hi friend. I am not doctor but I would just like to mention that I have the same problem as you. What seems to help relieve the cough and associated symptoms is injecting very slowly, like maybe 0.1 ml per 30 seconds min and then waiting for about 15 seconds before proceeding with the next 0.1 ml. Also, on your question of tets levels, I find that the fact that we have this problem, does not effect my growth at all. It really sucks though. If you ave any other useful information on this please share with me.

Thanks
Craig

 

[Phatbastard]

I'm No Doctor but I did do some research. As I found this intresting and found my first assumption to be in the ball park! Your having anaphylactic reaction! IE your most likely alergic to the oil! This is some what backed up by the fact that you experience this with several different products as well! As someone that is alergic to damn near every thing on the planet! I would recomend talking to an alergist this can be very dangerious. I once had an anaphylactic reaction that required an Epi shot to reduce the closeing of my throat as it felt!

 

[China_Wall]

**Please do not reply if you do not possess the clinical/scientific background to answer these questions. Also, please refrain from the typical "ur injecting tren. tren cough is normel" and "ur pinnin' into a vein bro". This has nothing to do with an accidental intravenous injection**


I am one of the few that gets coughing fits post injection every once in a while. I'm trying to understand the mechanisms at play here so I can minimize how often this happens.

Background: I have had coughs after injections as small as 1.5ml. I have quite a bit of IM-injection experience with my work, all injections are done in either quads or glutes, 1 minute per ml, slightly warmed in hands and always aspirated. Cough has come from Sustanon, Tren Acetate, Tren Enanthate, Testosterone Enanthate and Testosterone Propionate. Test E/P and Sust have been run without Tren with the same results.

From my understanding, a pulmonary oil microembolism is primarily caused by a large volume of oil causing a saturation of local lymph nodes, which blocks uptake into the thoracic duct and the 'overflowed' oil is getting dropped into the lungs and causing a cough.

Questions:

1. Given that I still cough after a 1.5ml injection, will breaking injections into smaller volumes show improvements?

2. Is overflown oil being purged in any way? Is my body going to continue metabolizing it as per normal, or will this have an effect on my overall testosterone levels?

3. Any suggestions to reducing problems?


Thank you!

bro.. for one; we are mostly bodybuilders here, not scientists... so if ur looking for a medical explanation as to why this is happening to u... go to your DOCTOR!

and taking a minute to inject 1ml of anything is just TOO long... to the guy that says take 30 seconds to a min to inject 0.1ml... that is just NUTS

a bit of tren cough here and there is NOT gonna kill anybody... but if ur getting it from everything, everytime, get it checked by a medical professsional, could be something wrong with u, not the gear.

in this game we love we live and learn... sometimes it's worth the pain and inconveniences to get where we wanna go